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ufos are real 55 of the americans are

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convinced

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but why they're here the answer to this

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question according to researchers and

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witnesses

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might lie in a phenomenon which is

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generally known under the term

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abductions or close encounters of the

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fourth kind

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do aliens come and take earthlings if

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yes

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what is their agenda let's have a look

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into the closest encounters it was about

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three in the morning

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november 30 1989 and

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my husband was already sleeping

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and i got into bed and uh

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because i'm a christian i

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say a prayer to myself mentally

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and and so that's what i did i prepared

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as usual to go to sleep i said my

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prayers

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in my mind and i felt a strange presence

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in the room

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two girlfriends and myself were out

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running around around two o'clock in the

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out in the country spying on one of our

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her boyfriends and this was in november

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of 77 i

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remembered uh seeing a light dancing

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around the sky and

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kind of laughingly joking with my friend

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saying i like the ufo

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and one the girlfriend driving thought

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it was funny and we giggled and the

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other girl got really scared in the back

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seat and so we were laughing at that too

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well then the lights started getting

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closer and we all started kind of

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getting creeps because it was acting

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stranger and we were feeling really

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weird and

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the girl in the back seat just went

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bananas and she

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dove into the floorboard screaming and

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hollering

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and um i remember the car slowing down

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remember she slowed the car down and we

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rolled her

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windows down to look out and get a good

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look at this thing

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and then it was fuzzy for me for a while

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after that

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what i remembered except for driving

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you know and suddenly realizing it's 4

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30 4 in the morning she looks down

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her girl drive and looks down and

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watching goes oh my god it's four

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o'clock in the morning you know time

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flies when you're having fun

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kind of snotty like but um and i

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remembered

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more later um about that night

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then this thing this

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huge black thing black craft like swoops

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down in front of the car

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and i see all this it's like the cars

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enveloped in black you know and i can't

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it feels as if i'm being pulled out of

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car by my legs

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and then i eventually

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being on an odd kind of table where the

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bottom dropped out and the legs went up

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this something hard and

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cold going up inside of me i woke up in

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the middle of the night immediately

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aware because there seemed to be

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something very wrong and

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uh i opened my eyes and i was in a

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little round room

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and there were these strange figures

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around me

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one with a big head and big black eyes

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moving very quickly and uh

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i kept trying to keep waking up because

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i couldn't believe they could be real

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and how had i gotten there it seemed it

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seemed like a nightmare from which i

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couldn't awaken this what it seemed like

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and i struggled with it for a few

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seconds and then

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when i still could not wake up and i

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to scream because i was really

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and at that point they turned on a

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machine that had a sort of

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soothing sounding voice but very

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electronic and it kept saying

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what can we do to help you stop

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screaming first of all

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an abduction can happen to one person or

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cases involving seven people at once

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but uh let's say first the nighttime

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visitation which is very typical

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uh let's say a man and woman are asleep

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he doesn't know why he's wakened up and

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that he's paralyzed and absolutely

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cannot move

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cannot alert his wife who seems totally

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he will find himself then floating

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not an out-of-body experience

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if he looks back to the bed if he can

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he's he's gone

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uh he floats out the window and there's

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outside some kind of intense light which

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functions as some sort of tractor beam

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or whatever we want to call it

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the act of either disrobing or being

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he's on a table and a series of medical

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they end up very often focusing on the

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genitals

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child or a baby even men

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he came back to bed often dropped from a

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pain or odd sensation a certain part of

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that's a typical kind of nighttime

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hundreds of these cases

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people have had abduction experiences in

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the united states at least

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in order to do that we went to a

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rover poll and we asked 6 000 americans

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that abductees say that they have had

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things like that

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we asked ten questions uh ultimately we

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found that two percent of the american

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experiences that abductees have had

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of human consciousness for quite a few

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yet when i first heard about this

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phenomenon

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about bud hopkins in his work i thought

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this was some kind of madness and

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of seeing these cases and realizing that

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explanation as a psychiatrist of what

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people who are now called abductees or

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anomalous experiences were undergoing it

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real experience and so the question then

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experiences are very private

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they differ among people enormously if

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you're having a

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symptomatic expression which is about

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something that happened to you as a

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child or if you

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uh have been abused or if you're having

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dreams or if you're

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having some kind of fantasy this will be

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very personal very

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variable among individuals you will not

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have a consistent

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complex narrative which

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is similar from one person to another

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the only thing that behaves like that is

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real experience something which

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is generated internally does not have

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that quality

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certain patterns began to emerge and up

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until the time i started doing this work

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i don't think people were paying

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attention to any particular sets of

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patterns as they emerged

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i got very interested in that issue what

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were the similarities from case to case

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establish that we were dealing with some

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rather definite precise

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external phenomena rather than just the

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the complete range of human fantasy

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if you've got patterns that are very

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tight

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the idea of fantasy is probably very

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much weakened at that point

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abductees describe approximately

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four different types of aliens although

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we have to be careful because oftentimes

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we get many different descriptions

298
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but one of the one one of the great

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problems in hypnosis

300
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is is identifying and describing

301
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aliens because uh particularly in a

302
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first session of hypnosis

303
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uh people tend to confabulate and they

304
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tend to say things that are not exactly

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true

306
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so uh when everything is controlled for

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we get about four different types of

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aliens

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one is the standard sort of gray alien

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that everybody i think is familiar with

311
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now

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small with thin arms thin legs thin body

313
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big black eyes no hair no nose no mouth

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no ears then there's ones that look more

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insect like

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maybe like a praying mantis ones that

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look more

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human-like

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in the end it doesn't matter they're all

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seen together

321
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they're all doing the same thing they're

322
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all working together they're all

323
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pursuing the common goal

324
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and therefore for our purposes they

325
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probably come from one place

326
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and what we are looking at is a unified

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body of aliens

328
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uh all doing the same thing the eighties

329
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brought the breakthrough for the alien

330
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abduction phenomenon

331
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two bestsellers intruders by pod hopkins

332
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and communion by whitley strieber

333
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presented new witnesses and documented

334
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the new aspect of a threatening reality

335
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[Applause]

336
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[Music]

337
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we didn't we didn't see the mark in the

338
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yard for like two or three days

339
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after the night of june 30 1983 when

340
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i had the experience of being in the

341
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garage

342
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hunting for what i thought was a burglar

343
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coming out of the garage

344
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because all of a sudden my skin started

345
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feeling was on fire like i was burning

346
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and had to get out of there

347
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and being hit in the chest by a bolt of

348
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lightning for lack of anything better

349
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to describe it like and

350
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then seeing the

351
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silhouettes of small figures about four

352
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feet or so it's all

353
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moving in the yard six of them um

354
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and moving towards a small or sort of

355
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egg shaped like

356
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craft and um

357
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and the next morning when i got up after

358
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this was all over with

359
00:15:36,550 --> 00:15:34,800
i uh my eyes were swollen shut

360
00:15:37,910 --> 00:15:36,560
i was taken to the emergency room of the

361
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hospital who sent me

362
00:15:43,189 --> 00:15:41,040
directly to an ophthalmologist i guess

363
00:15:46,230 --> 00:15:43,199
an eye specialist who

364
00:15:48,150 --> 00:15:46,240
uh basically accused me of looking into

365
00:15:50,550 --> 00:15:48,160
the arc of a welder's torch

366
00:15:51,990 --> 00:15:50,560
somehow frying my eyes give me a lot of

367
00:15:53,829 --> 00:15:52,000
medication drops and

368
00:15:57,110 --> 00:15:53,839
and cream to put took a couple weeks for

369
00:16:00,949 --> 00:15:59,030
then we saw the mark in the yard and the

370
00:16:02,870 --> 00:16:00,959
very first thing

371
00:16:04,470 --> 00:16:02,880
that i remember when i looked at that

372
00:16:06,069 --> 00:16:04,480
mark in the yard the very very first

373
00:16:09,350 --> 00:16:06,079
thing i remember is

374
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suddenly seeing these two black eyes

375
00:16:13,670 --> 00:16:11,440
so sort of superimposed over the mark in

376
00:16:15,189 --> 00:16:13,680
the arctic stunned me

377
00:16:16,870 --> 00:16:15,199
and my mother was talking about oh

378
00:16:20,470 --> 00:16:16,880
that's where our ufo landed

379
00:16:21,829 --> 00:16:20,480
laughing about it you know and uh

380
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then i started thinking about the

381
00:16:25,829 --> 00:16:23,600
hopkins book missing time

382
00:16:27,110 --> 00:16:25,839
but in that circular area all the grass

383
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was killed and the ground

384
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that i was in the soil was fused into a

385
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kind of rock-like

386
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hardness uh the there was a again

387
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something like a 40 foot long a little

388
00:16:41,269 --> 00:16:38,560
bit longer than that

389
00:16:41,990 --> 00:16:41,279
straight swath away from there away from

390
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that

391
00:16:47,829 --> 00:16:44,079
landing area where again the soil was

392
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now this is of course something that was

393
00:16:53,829 --> 00:16:52,160
very mysterious because

394
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the soil was very moist there'd been a

395
00:16:57,110 --> 00:16:56,160
lot of rain but this soil was so dry it

396
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cracked open

397
00:17:01,350 --> 00:16:59,920
and as i said fused on to an almost

398
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rock-like hardness

399
00:17:05,669 --> 00:17:03,120
we've tried to duplicate that effect in

400
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the laboratory taking control soil

401
00:17:10,390 --> 00:17:07,760
and we can't do it we don't know what

402
00:17:13,590 --> 00:17:10,400
kind of energy affected that soil

403
00:17:15,189 --> 00:17:13,600
but any rate we know from her

404
00:17:16,549 --> 00:17:15,199
recollections where the ufo sat and

405
00:17:18,710 --> 00:17:16,559
that's where the ground was

406
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fused so you have a very powerful kind

407
00:17:24,390 --> 00:17:20,559
of physical evidence supporting

408
00:17:26,390 --> 00:17:24,400
her her account on top of which the ufo

409
00:17:28,309 --> 00:17:26,400
when it took off evidently created a

410
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tremendous flash which was seen by a

411
00:17:32,630 --> 00:17:30,160
neighbor in exactly the spot where

412
00:17:35,190 --> 00:17:32,640
she remembered it having been sitting

413
00:17:37,350 --> 00:17:35,200
and as it flew over the neighbor's house

414
00:17:38,230 --> 00:17:37,360
uh all of the lights went out in the

415
00:17:40,230 --> 00:17:38,240
neighbor's

416
00:17:41,669 --> 00:17:40,240
house she heard a roaring sound she was

417
00:17:43,270 --> 00:17:41,679
absolutely terrified

418
00:17:46,390 --> 00:17:43,280
the lights all came back on again

419
00:17:49,430 --> 00:17:46,400
without tripping any

420
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circuit breakers that mark in the yard

421
00:17:53,590 --> 00:17:52,080
has it it's just healed up in the last

422
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few years it remained there for five

423
00:17:57,669 --> 00:17:55,039
years very visible

424
00:17:58,390 --> 00:17:57,679
snow melted off of it water ran over it

425
00:17:59,909 --> 00:17:58,400
you can still

426
00:18:01,350 --> 00:17:59,919
feel it even though you can no longer

427
00:18:02,070 --> 00:18:01,360
see where it is when you walk on the

428
00:18:03,830 --> 00:18:02,080
yard

429
00:18:05,270 --> 00:18:03,840
you can still feel where it is because

430
00:18:14,380 --> 00:18:05,280
the ground is still very much firmer

431
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than the rest of the yard

432
00:18:33,029 --> 00:18:15,110
[Applause]

433
00:18:36,789 --> 00:18:35,909
subsequent to the contact experience i

434
00:18:40,870 --> 00:18:36,799
began to have

435
00:18:43,669 --> 00:18:40,880
groups of people up to my cabin i had

436
00:18:45,750 --> 00:18:43,679
groups of friends i mean and and they

437
00:18:46,390 --> 00:18:45,760
began to have contact on mass at the

438
00:18:49,590 --> 00:18:46,400
cabin

439
00:18:51,590 --> 00:18:49,600
um to quite an amazing degree even

440
00:18:52,310 --> 00:18:51,600
people who weren't involved at all and

441
00:18:53,990 --> 00:18:52,320
knew nothing

442
00:18:55,350 --> 00:18:54,000
little or nothing about it would have

443
00:18:57,270 --> 00:18:55,360
these encounters

444
00:18:58,549 --> 00:18:57,280
and that continued for about two or

445
00:19:00,950 --> 00:18:58,559
three years

446
00:19:03,029 --> 00:19:00,960
well i was whitley strieber's upstate

447
00:19:06,470 --> 00:19:03,039
new york cabin guest

448
00:19:08,950 --> 00:19:06,480
one night and when i went to bed i felt

449
00:19:11,110 --> 00:19:08,960
this overwhelming sense of euphoria as

450
00:19:13,270 --> 00:19:11,120
if i had been drugged

451
00:19:15,029 --> 00:19:13,280
to my knowledge i wasn't it was a

452
00:19:17,430 --> 00:19:15,039
wonderful feeling i felt at one with the

453
00:19:19,110 --> 00:19:17,440
universe and then i went out to sleep

454
00:19:21,590 --> 00:19:19,120
and a person that was in the room with

455
00:19:23,590 --> 00:19:21,600
me also had similar feelings

456
00:19:24,870 --> 00:19:23,600
and also had seen light forms in the

457
00:19:28,150 --> 00:19:24,880
room

458
00:19:30,789 --> 00:19:28,160
at first uh it was extremely terrifying

459
00:19:32,450 --> 00:19:30,799
when i ran out of options in february of

460
00:19:33,669 --> 00:19:32,460
that of 1986

461
00:19:36,070 --> 00:19:33,679
[Music]

462
00:19:38,789 --> 00:19:36,080
i was incredibly frightened because i

463
00:19:40,150 --> 00:19:38,799
couldn't think of any way to explain

464
00:19:43,909 --> 00:19:40,160
this

465
00:19:46,950 --> 00:19:45,350
it was a bit like discovering you're not

466
00:19:47,830 --> 00:19:46,960
who you think you are you know it was

467
00:19:50,830 --> 00:19:47,840
just a

468
00:19:52,549 --> 00:19:50,840
shocking terrible experience and i began

469
00:19:57,270 --> 00:19:52,559
to

470
00:20:00,070 --> 00:19:57,280
debilitating it was devastating

471
00:20:00,710 --> 00:20:00,080
by going and walking in the night in the

472
00:20:03,750 --> 00:20:00,720
woods

473
00:20:04,950 --> 00:20:03,760
where it happened and it became quite

474
00:20:06,630 --> 00:20:04,960
obsessive

475
00:20:07,909 --> 00:20:06,640
i couldn't really settle down at night

476
00:20:09,669 --> 00:20:07,919
unless i went out and walked through

477
00:20:11,590 --> 00:20:09,679
those woods and at the same time it was

478
00:20:13,510 --> 00:20:11,600
very hard to do because it was extremely

479
00:20:15,990 --> 00:20:13,520
scary to do that

480
00:20:18,870 --> 00:20:16,000
and the visitors began to react to this

481
00:20:21,669 --> 00:20:18,880
to my effort to overcome my fear

482
00:20:23,029 --> 00:20:21,679
and they began to come back to the house

483
00:20:25,750 --> 00:20:23,039
and showed up

484
00:20:26,230 --> 00:20:25,760
they began showing up fairly frequently

485
00:20:28,149 --> 00:20:26,240
and

486
00:20:29,270 --> 00:20:28,159
i didn't have any more abductions but i

487
00:20:32,310 --> 00:20:29,280
had a few contact

488
00:20:33,990 --> 00:20:32,320
very brief sort of half

489
00:20:35,350 --> 00:20:34,000
put together contact experiences that

490
00:20:37,110 --> 00:20:35,360
didn't quite work

491
00:20:48,510 --> 00:20:37,120
because i was too scared to take it any

492
00:20:52,230 --> 00:20:48,520
to take it farther

493
00:20:55,430 --> 00:20:52,240
[Music]

494
00:20:56,710 --> 00:20:55,440
i tried to wake my husband i still

495
00:20:58,149 --> 00:20:56,720
closed

496
00:21:00,149 --> 00:20:58,159
and there was no response from my

497
00:21:02,070 --> 00:21:00,159
husband

498
00:21:03,669 --> 00:21:02,080
and that's when i did open my eyes and i

499
00:21:06,310 --> 00:21:03,679
looked straight ahead

500
00:21:10,070 --> 00:21:06,320
and there was this thing this creature

501
00:21:14,070 --> 00:21:11,750
and it was the first time i had ever

502
00:21:16,230 --> 00:21:14,080
seen that consciously i was awake i

503
00:21:19,470 --> 00:21:16,240
hadn't gone to sleep yet

504
00:21:21,110 --> 00:21:19,480
i was saying my prayers and

505
00:21:24,149 --> 00:21:21,120
[Music]

506
00:21:27,590 --> 00:21:24,159
so by this time my legs were numb

507
00:21:29,190 --> 00:21:27,600
and uh i sat up in bed dragging my heavy

508
00:21:32,390 --> 00:21:29,200
legs with me and

509
00:21:35,830 --> 00:21:32,400
turned up behind me and threw a pillow

510
00:21:37,750 --> 00:21:35,840
big pillow that i made you would think

511
00:21:40,549 --> 00:21:37,760
that i stuffed them or rock

512
00:21:41,669 --> 00:21:40,559
was heavy and i hit him too that

513
00:21:44,950 --> 00:21:41,679
creature

514
00:21:48,149 --> 00:21:44,960
and my next conscious memory

515
00:21:51,830 --> 00:21:48,159
uh fragmented memory was um

516
00:21:54,070 --> 00:21:51,840
seeing white fabric flow up and over my

517
00:21:57,190 --> 00:21:54,080
eyes and then down again

518
00:21:57,990 --> 00:21:57,200
and then i felt something perhaps little

519
00:22:02,870 --> 00:21:58,000
fists or

520
00:22:06,470 --> 00:22:02,880
maybe an instrument pounding on my back

521
00:22:08,870 --> 00:22:06,480
and uh and that was all i remembered

522
00:22:09,669 --> 00:22:08,880
and then my next conscious memory was

523
00:22:12,070 --> 00:22:09,679
that of

524
00:22:14,070 --> 00:22:12,080
falling into my bed i could have fallen

525
00:22:16,789 --> 00:22:14,080
anywhere from two inches

526
00:22:18,789 --> 00:22:16,799
up or two feet up or whatever but i was

527
00:22:20,390 --> 00:22:18,799
conscious and i felt myself falling to

528
00:22:23,590 --> 00:22:20,400
bed

529
00:22:25,029 --> 00:22:23,600
well i was contacted by two of the

530
00:22:28,070 --> 00:22:25,039
witnesses by letter

531
00:22:29,510 --> 00:22:28,080
and they found it

532
00:22:31,350 --> 00:22:29,520
out about the third witness a little

533
00:22:32,310 --> 00:22:31,360
later on and then ultimately the fourth

534
00:22:35,510 --> 00:22:32,320
witness

535
00:22:38,710 --> 00:22:35,520
uh i received a letter from her and

536
00:22:40,630 --> 00:22:38,720
dealt with her on a personal basis

537
00:22:42,710 --> 00:22:40,640
the uh there's a fifth witness who i

538
00:22:45,029 --> 00:22:42,720
dealt with earlier who had seen

539
00:22:46,310 --> 00:22:45,039
the ufo from another point of view she'd

540
00:22:47,830 --> 00:22:46,320
not seen the figures

541
00:22:50,070 --> 00:22:47,840
floating in the air but she had seen the

542
00:22:53,669 --> 00:22:50,080
ufo at exactly that hour

543
00:22:55,750 --> 00:22:53,679
on that night so um

544
00:22:57,350 --> 00:22:55,760
there are obviously many other witnesses

545
00:22:59,029 --> 00:22:57,360
and essentially from some

546
00:23:01,750 --> 00:22:59,039
distance it's about a quarter of a mile

547
00:23:03,430 --> 00:23:01,760
she saw this very large

548
00:23:05,909 --> 00:23:03,440
ship above the building and this

549
00:23:06,549 --> 00:23:05,919
occurred after the motor died in her car

550
00:23:08,070 --> 00:23:06,559
and the car

551
00:23:10,549 --> 00:23:08,080
stopped and the lights went out in the

552
00:23:12,789 --> 00:23:10,559
car and on the bridge

553
00:23:14,549 --> 00:23:12,799
and on the bridge roadway and several

554
00:23:16,070 --> 00:23:14,559
other cars also stopped with their

555
00:23:17,510 --> 00:23:16,080
lights out

556
00:23:19,510 --> 00:23:17,520
no one knew what was happening to the

557
00:23:20,710 --> 00:23:19,520
cars why everybody's automobiles were

558
00:23:24,070 --> 00:23:20,720
stopping and she

559
00:23:25,270 --> 00:23:24,080
looked to the to her right and saw this

560
00:23:27,029 --> 00:23:25,280
enormous object

561
00:23:29,190 --> 00:23:27,039
very very brightly lit above the

562
00:23:31,270 --> 00:23:29,200
building and then

563
00:23:32,390 --> 00:23:31,280
a blue white light came out in the

564
00:23:35,350 --> 00:23:32,400
bottom of it and she

565
00:23:36,470 --> 00:23:35,360
at that point saw these figures she

566
00:23:37,110 --> 00:23:36,480
didn't know what they were at that time

567
00:23:39,350 --> 00:23:37,120
they looked like

568
00:23:41,110 --> 00:23:39,360
balls they were people rolled up and

569
00:23:42,870 --> 00:23:41,120
that kind of fetal position came popping

570
00:23:43,830 --> 00:23:42,880
out of the window 12 stories off the

571
00:23:47,269 --> 00:23:43,840
ground

572
00:23:49,269 --> 00:23:47,279
and they all unfolded once and

573
00:23:50,630 --> 00:23:49,279
then were taken up quickly into the

574
00:23:54,710 --> 00:23:50,640
crack this whole thing

575
00:23:56,710 --> 00:23:54,720
taking roughly about 12 seconds

576
00:23:58,630 --> 00:23:56,720
and then the craft moved away and her

577
00:24:00,470 --> 00:23:58,640
descriptions exactly corroborate the

578
00:24:03,830 --> 00:24:00,480
descriptions of

579
00:24:05,909 --> 00:24:03,840
the two intelligent security agents

580
00:24:07,269 --> 00:24:05,919
in the car down below who were

581
00:24:08,310 --> 00:24:07,279
accompanying an important political

582
00:24:09,669 --> 00:24:08,320
figure

583
00:24:20,950 --> 00:24:09,679
they all saw the same thing with the

584
00:24:23,909 --> 00:24:22,230
i think you have to remember that this

585
00:24:25,190 --> 00:24:23,919
is a phenomenon that is not only just

586
00:24:26,789 --> 00:24:25,200
stories that people tell

587
00:24:28,789 --> 00:24:26,799
there is a very strong physical

588
00:24:30,310 --> 00:24:28,799
component that is related to this that

589
00:24:31,110 --> 00:24:30,320
that everybody is involved with for

590
00:24:32,870 --> 00:24:31,120
example

591
00:24:34,310 --> 00:24:32,880
when people say they're abducted they're

592
00:24:36,310 --> 00:24:34,320
physically missing from their normal

593
00:24:37,990 --> 00:24:36,320
environment they're not there nobody's

594
00:24:41,190 --> 00:24:38,000
ever found anybody who has

595
00:24:43,830 --> 00:24:41,200
been abducted people come back with

596
00:24:44,310 --> 00:24:43,840
unusual marks and scars on their bodies

597
00:24:51,750 --> 00:24:44,320
that

598
00:24:54,630 --> 00:24:51,760
people see other people being abducted

599
00:24:55,110 --> 00:24:54,640
of the 750 abduction regressions that i

600
00:24:58,470 --> 00:24:55,120
have done

601
00:25:01,750 --> 00:24:58,480
that i have investigated uh fully

602
00:25:03,110 --> 00:25:01,760
20 percent of them are of two or more

603
00:25:06,470 --> 00:25:03,120
people

604
00:25:08,230 --> 00:25:06,480
other's abductions they see

605
00:25:09,669 --> 00:25:08,240
each other and sometimes the person is

606
00:25:12,830 --> 00:25:09,679
not one person's not abducted and the

607
00:25:15,669 --> 00:25:12,840
other one is and they still see it

608
00:25:16,630 --> 00:25:15,679
furthermore the precise detail that

609
00:25:18,630 --> 00:25:16,640
people describe

610
00:25:20,390 --> 00:25:18,640
is extraordinary they can describe

611
00:25:21,029 --> 00:25:20,400
certain instruments that are used on

612
00:25:22,549 --> 00:25:21,039
them

613
00:25:24,149 --> 00:25:22,559
and we know what those instruments are

614
00:25:25,590 --> 00:25:24,159
for and they may not understand what

615
00:25:26,470 --> 00:25:25,600
they're for they may not even know it

616
00:25:28,789 --> 00:25:26,480
but we've seen those

617
00:25:29,990 --> 00:25:28,799
instruments so many times we know what

618
00:25:31,430 --> 00:25:30,000
they're for

619
00:25:33,750 --> 00:25:31,440
not only that but when they describe

620
00:25:34,470 --> 00:25:33,760
procedures they'll describe procedure a

621
00:25:37,190 --> 00:25:34,480
procedure b

622
00:25:37,990 --> 00:25:37,200
procedure c and we know procedure d is

623
00:25:39,510 --> 00:25:38,000
coming

624
00:25:41,190 --> 00:25:39,520
and they don't know it and then they go

625
00:25:43,750 --> 00:25:41,200
ahead and describe procedure g d

626
00:25:44,470 --> 00:25:43,760
just like everybody else has done so

627
00:25:45,990 --> 00:25:44,480
therefore

628
00:25:48,630 --> 00:25:46,000
any theory that accounts for this

629
00:25:49,110 --> 00:25:48,640
phenomenon must take into account its

630
00:25:52,470 --> 00:25:49,120
strong

631
00:25:53,669 --> 00:25:52,480
physical component and deal with it

632
00:25:55,430 --> 00:25:53,679
oh yes i'm certain that they're

633
00:25:56,390 --> 00:25:55,440
happening in the physical reality

634
00:25:58,950 --> 00:25:56,400
because

635
00:26:02,230 --> 00:25:58,960
i wake up with various marks on my body

636
00:26:05,110 --> 00:26:02,240
that i've received overnight

637
00:26:06,470 --> 00:26:05,120
here are some examples there's a little

638
00:26:08,470 --> 00:26:06,480
piece of skin

639
00:26:10,070 --> 00:26:08,480
scooped out of my chin over here there's

640
00:26:11,190 --> 00:26:10,080
another one that i've had here since

641
00:26:13,269 --> 00:26:11,200
childhood but i never

642
00:26:15,510 --> 00:26:13,279
knew how it happened but this one over

643
00:26:18,549 --> 00:26:15,520
here i received this year

644
00:26:20,549 --> 00:26:18,559
i think it was in march of this year i

645
00:26:22,310 --> 00:26:20,559
just woke up with a little piece of skin

646
00:26:25,110 --> 00:26:22,320
missing out of my face

647
00:26:26,870 --> 00:26:25,120
you know when when you cut yourself or

648
00:26:28,549 --> 00:26:26,880
or scrape yourself you know first it's

649
00:26:29,029 --> 00:26:28,559
going to bleed and then it's going to

650
00:26:31,510 --> 00:26:29,039
scab

651
00:26:32,470 --> 00:26:31,520
is going to fall off and have the

652
00:26:38,149 --> 00:26:32,480
natural

653
00:26:38,950 --> 00:26:38,159
this little scoop out of skin never it

654
00:26:41,990 --> 00:26:38,960
never bled

655
00:26:44,390 --> 00:26:42,000
there was no scab it was just not there

656
00:26:47,669 --> 00:26:44,400
one day and the next day i had a

657
00:26:51,029 --> 00:26:47,679
healed scoop mark out of my face

658
00:26:54,070 --> 00:26:51,039
i've had one on each leg i

659
00:26:54,870 --> 00:26:54,080
woke up one day and discovered a tiny

660
00:26:58,630 --> 00:26:54,880
little

661
00:27:02,070 --> 00:26:58,640
that had not been there before

662
00:27:03,830 --> 00:27:02,080
i woke up with with um various types of

663
00:27:07,510 --> 00:27:03,840
other marks on my body

664
00:27:10,070 --> 00:27:07,520
for instance back in january

665
00:27:11,269 --> 00:27:10,080
and february of this year i discovered

666
00:27:14,470 --> 00:27:11,279
on my back

667
00:27:18,070 --> 00:27:14,480
two circular marks that looked like

668
00:27:20,549 --> 00:27:18,080
punctures in the form of a circle

669
00:27:21,750 --> 00:27:20,559
like seven punctures in a circle and one

670
00:27:23,350 --> 00:27:21,760
in the middle

671
00:27:25,590 --> 00:27:23,360
but the ultimate evidence for the

672
00:27:26,630 --> 00:27:25,600
physical reality of alien abductions

673
00:27:37,190 --> 00:27:26,640
were strange

674
00:27:41,430 --> 00:27:39,430
the issue of implants is an extremely

675
00:27:44,310 --> 00:27:41,440
interesting issue because

676
00:27:45,750 --> 00:27:44,320
a number of objects alleged implants

677
00:27:49,990 --> 00:27:45,760
have been recovered

678
00:27:51,350 --> 00:27:50,000
and um the they vary in

679
00:27:53,269 --> 00:27:51,360
size and shape and they seem to have

680
00:27:55,909 --> 00:27:53,279
come from odd places

681
00:27:56,470 --> 00:27:55,919
from in one case the underside of the

682
00:27:59,830 --> 00:27:56,480
penis

683
00:28:01,830 --> 00:27:59,840
in another case uh the nasal cavity and

684
00:28:03,750 --> 00:28:01,840
so on

685
00:28:05,590 --> 00:28:03,760
these particular objects have in common

686
00:28:06,470 --> 00:28:05,600
the fact that none of them are radio

687
00:28:08,470 --> 00:28:06,480
opaque

688
00:28:09,750 --> 00:28:08,480
meaning they do not show up on an x-ray

689
00:28:12,789 --> 00:28:09,760
which is interesting

690
00:28:15,830 --> 00:28:12,799
they're also mainly consisting of

691
00:28:19,510 --> 00:28:15,840
organic materials like

692
00:28:23,990 --> 00:28:19,520
silicon carbon oxygen and so forth

693
00:28:27,190 --> 00:28:24,000
they're not they don't look like

694
00:28:28,630 --> 00:28:27,200
a piece of machinery we don't know

695
00:28:30,310 --> 00:28:28,640
really what these things are

696
00:28:32,230 --> 00:28:30,320
it's very difficult to get the

697
00:28:33,909 --> 00:28:32,240
scientists who have studied these things

698
00:28:35,269 --> 00:28:33,919
to go out on a limb and say there's no

699
00:28:37,190 --> 00:28:35,279
way that this object could have been

700
00:28:39,669 --> 00:28:37,200
produced on earth

701
00:28:41,990 --> 00:28:39,679
no scientist wants to be forced to try

702
00:28:43,510 --> 00:28:42,000
to prove a negative

703
00:28:45,590 --> 00:28:43,520
but yet none of these things should have

704
00:28:46,870 --> 00:28:45,600
been found in the places they were found

705
00:28:48,549 --> 00:28:46,880
in the human body

706
00:28:50,870 --> 00:28:48,559
we have no idea of their function either

707
00:28:53,350 --> 00:28:50,880
we have some speculative guesses

708
00:28:53,909 --> 00:28:53,360
but um and we have some x-ray pictures

709
00:28:57,190 --> 00:28:53,919
and some

710
00:29:02,470 --> 00:28:57,200
mri photographs uh of

711
00:29:07,029 --> 00:29:04,710
abduction researcher daryl thinks

712
00:29:13,240 --> 00:29:07,039
investigated several of those alleged

713
00:29:18,630 --> 00:29:13,250
alien implants

714
00:29:22,149 --> 00:29:20,549
first of all when we found it it was we

715
00:29:23,430 --> 00:29:22,159
were quite excited when the lady brought

716
00:29:24,230 --> 00:29:23,440
it to us she brought it to us quite by

717
00:29:26,149 --> 00:29:24,240
accident

718
00:29:27,430 --> 00:29:26,159
she's rubbing her eye the next morning

719
00:29:29,190 --> 00:29:27,440
after december the 10th

720
00:29:30,789 --> 00:29:29,200
next morning something was bothering her

721
00:29:32,630 --> 00:29:30,799
eyes she rubbed her eye and and it fell

722
00:29:33,350 --> 00:29:32,640
out on her desk and it landed its little

723
00:29:35,350 --> 00:29:33,360
tiny thing

724
00:29:36,789 --> 00:29:35,360
but it's so hard she actually heard it

725
00:29:38,470 --> 00:29:36,799
hit the desk

726
00:29:40,389 --> 00:29:38,480
her boss happened to be standing there

727
00:29:41,510 --> 00:29:40,399
and looked at and says what is that she

728
00:29:43,029 --> 00:29:41,520
said i know it's a piece of sand or

729
00:29:43,990 --> 00:29:43,039
something is in my eyes hurting my eye

730
00:29:45,430 --> 00:29:44,000
all night

731
00:29:47,190 --> 00:29:45,440
and she said take it to that uh

732
00:29:48,389 --> 00:29:47,200
investigator mr sims

733
00:29:49,990 --> 00:29:48,399
and she said she's probably be some

734
00:29:50,789 --> 00:29:50,000
sense just don't take it to him please

735
00:29:52,630 --> 00:29:50,799
do that

736
00:29:54,789 --> 00:29:52,640
that's the only reason we have that

737
00:29:56,549 --> 00:29:54,799
actual evidence in regressive hypnosis

738
00:29:58,389 --> 00:29:56,559
she describes this object how it was

739
00:30:00,149 --> 00:29:58,399
installed with the surgical instruments

740
00:30:01,590 --> 00:30:00,159
and a different instrument that was used

741
00:30:03,110 --> 00:30:01,600
to take it out

742
00:30:05,110 --> 00:30:03,120
first of all i brought an entomologist

743
00:30:07,430 --> 00:30:05,120
biologist they looked at it to determine

744
00:30:08,870 --> 00:30:07,440
whether or not is it a seed

745
00:30:10,710 --> 00:30:08,880
is it a plant seed that's what it kind

746
00:30:12,950 --> 00:30:10,720
of looks like when you look at it

747
00:30:14,630 --> 00:30:12,960
it's so small and i brought in

748
00:30:15,110 --> 00:30:14,640
entomologists to see if it was an insect

749
00:30:16,630 --> 00:30:15,120
egg

750
00:30:18,070 --> 00:30:16,640
of course i knew i'd already looked at

751
00:30:20,070 --> 00:30:18,080
the object i knew that was not the case

752
00:30:21,909 --> 00:30:20,080
but i wanted that verified by

753
00:30:24,230 --> 00:30:21,919
people who these are post doctorate

754
00:30:26,070 --> 00:30:24,240
students

755
00:30:27,990 --> 00:30:26,080
now the individuals looked at this then

756
00:30:31,669 --> 00:30:28,000
i had a microbiologist look at it and

757
00:30:33,350 --> 00:30:31,679
uh he was quite uh vocal in his

758
00:30:33,830 --> 00:30:33,360
description he said my god what is this

759
00:30:35,190 --> 00:30:33,840
thing

760
00:30:37,190 --> 00:30:35,200
he said looks like hard plastic on the

761
00:30:38,310 --> 00:30:37,200
outside looks like an egg on the outside

762
00:30:39,909 --> 00:30:38,320
with the end of it open

763
00:30:42,230 --> 00:30:39,919
with packing material on the inside he

764
00:30:42,870 --> 00:30:42,240
said like something was housed inside

765
00:30:45,510 --> 00:30:42,880
this

766
00:30:46,389 --> 00:30:45,520
course all the information i gave him

767
00:30:48,070 --> 00:30:46,399
was simply

768
00:30:49,430 --> 00:30:48,080
i fell out of a lady's eye he said it

769
00:30:51,750 --> 00:30:49,440
couldn't this thing how could this be in

770
00:30:53,909 --> 00:30:51,760
someone's eye

771
00:30:55,350 --> 00:30:53,919
what is how what is it saying i i really

772
00:30:58,310 --> 00:30:55,360
can't tell you anymore about it

773
00:30:58,710 --> 00:30:58,320
that's all later i took it uh then to

774
00:31:04,149 --> 00:30:58,720
the

775
00:31:07,350 --> 00:31:04,159
electron microscope what we found is uh

776
00:31:08,149 --> 00:31:07,360
rare uh traces of beryllium and uh

777
00:31:10,549 --> 00:31:08,159
titanium

778
00:31:12,630 --> 00:31:10,559
which then just tends to show up in ufo

779
00:31:14,149 --> 00:31:12,640
type related material

780
00:31:15,909 --> 00:31:14,159
as as well as other things but those

781
00:31:18,230 --> 00:31:15,919
were the things were kind of interesting

782
00:31:21,269 --> 00:31:18,240
to that showed up in this object

783
00:31:23,590 --> 00:31:21,279
i started in this by uh

784
00:31:25,110 --> 00:31:23,600
meeting a researcher in texas by the

785
00:31:27,110 --> 00:31:25,120
name of gerald simms

786
00:31:30,549 --> 00:31:27,120
who have been investigating the alien

787
00:31:32,710 --> 00:31:30,559
abduction phenomena for some 27 years

788
00:31:34,149 --> 00:31:32,720
he got me interested by showing me a set

789
00:31:38,070 --> 00:31:34,159
of x-rays of a foot

790
00:31:41,190 --> 00:31:38,080
which contained two metallic objects

791
00:31:43,269 --> 00:31:41,200
and i offered to remove them

792
00:31:46,070 --> 00:31:43,279
by the time that case was set for

793
00:31:47,990 --> 00:31:46,080
removal another case had come up and had

794
00:31:49,350 --> 00:31:48,000
the metallic object in the back of the

795
00:31:53,029 --> 00:31:49,360
hand

796
00:31:56,070 --> 00:31:53,039
i organized the surgical team both

797
00:32:00,149 --> 00:31:56,080
cases were done and the biological

798
00:32:02,870 --> 00:32:00,159
findings were

799
00:32:05,909 --> 00:32:02,880
recorded as well as the beginning of a

800
00:32:08,310 --> 00:32:05,919
long set of metallurgical findings

801
00:32:09,430 --> 00:32:08,320
to date we've done uh six different

802
00:32:12,630 --> 00:32:09,440
procedures

803
00:32:14,389 --> 00:32:12,640
the results of which we have three that

804
00:32:17,190 --> 00:32:14,399
are similar as far as objects

805
00:32:17,750 --> 00:32:17,200
and the other three are similar we have

806
00:32:20,870 --> 00:32:17,760
the

807
00:32:23,669 --> 00:32:20,880
non-metallic

808
00:32:25,669 --> 00:32:23,679
the metallic objects uh vary in shapes

809
00:32:28,149 --> 00:32:25,679
and are covered with a dark gray

810
00:32:30,310 --> 00:32:28,159
dense membrane that you can't cut

811
00:32:33,590 --> 00:32:30,320
through with a surgical blade

812
00:32:36,710 --> 00:32:33,600
the other three were small uh bb

813
00:32:39,750 --> 00:32:36,720
sized uh balls that were grayish

814
00:32:41,509 --> 00:32:39,760
color and uh they are not calcium

815
00:32:43,990 --> 00:32:41,519
they've had one analyzed and it's a

816
00:32:47,190 --> 00:32:44,000
multitude of different elements

817
00:32:49,269 --> 00:32:47,200
the biological findings include

818
00:32:52,230 --> 00:32:49,279
the tissue surrounding area which shows

819
00:32:55,590 --> 00:32:52,240
no evidence of an inflammatory response

820
00:32:57,430 --> 00:32:55,600
which is virtually humanly impossible

821
00:32:58,870 --> 00:32:57,440
and a large amount of nerve

822
00:33:00,870 --> 00:32:58,880
proprioceptors

823
00:33:02,230 --> 00:33:00,880
all from areas of tissue where they

824
00:33:03,990 --> 00:33:02,240
don't belong

825
00:33:05,509 --> 00:33:04,000
and after these two people were taken

826
00:33:07,430 --> 00:33:05,519
back to houston i took the implants of

827
00:33:09,269 --> 00:33:07,440
me dr lear did the pathology

828
00:33:10,710 --> 00:33:09,279
so there was a good chain of evidence on

829
00:33:12,789 --> 00:33:10,720
on the objects

830
00:33:13,909 --> 00:33:12,799
he sent off the pathology and from two

831
00:33:16,230 --> 00:33:13,919
separate pathologists

832
00:33:18,070 --> 00:33:16,240
he found the following report no signs

833
00:33:18,870 --> 00:33:18,080
of inflammatory response either chronic

834
00:33:20,789 --> 00:33:18,880
or acute

835
00:33:21,990 --> 00:33:20,799
and the wrong nerve cells present nerve

836
00:33:26,070 --> 00:33:22,000
proprioceptors

837
00:33:27,990 --> 00:33:26,080
nerve cells that you have on the

838
00:33:30,230 --> 00:33:28,000
their sense cells that you use on the

839
00:33:32,389 --> 00:33:30,240
outside of your skin for touch for taste

840
00:33:33,430 --> 00:33:32,399
uh touch and feelings that pressure and

841
00:33:35,909 --> 00:33:33,440
this sort of thing

842
00:33:36,710 --> 00:33:35,919
these are found in mass surrounding the

843
00:33:41,990 --> 00:33:36,720
alleged

844
00:33:43,350 --> 00:33:42,000
inside the lady's feet and also in the

845
00:33:45,350 --> 00:33:43,360
man's hand

846
00:33:47,909 --> 00:33:45,360
the two uh biological coverings

847
00:33:51,430 --> 00:33:47,919
surrounding these metal objects

848
00:33:54,630 --> 00:33:51,440
seem to be made possibly from the

849
00:33:56,310 --> 00:33:54,640
abductee's own surface skin i think that

850
00:33:58,389 --> 00:33:56,320
there's a possibility that

851
00:33:59,909 --> 00:33:58,399
the scoop marks may suggest that the

852
00:34:02,630 --> 00:33:59,919
alien presence

853
00:34:03,990 --> 00:34:02,640
uh it is reasonable for me to believe

854
00:34:05,990 --> 00:34:04,000
that they could take the scoop

855
00:34:08,069 --> 00:34:06,000
from anyone and culture that and would

856
00:34:09,669 --> 00:34:08,079
literally have tissue for you anytime

857
00:34:11,190 --> 00:34:09,679
they wanted to wrap an implant with it

858
00:34:12,790 --> 00:34:11,200
and install it in your body

859
00:34:14,389 --> 00:34:12,800
which would account for nerve tissue

860
00:34:16,230 --> 00:34:14,399
like nerve proprioceptors

861
00:34:17,510 --> 00:34:16,240
on the surface of skin being wrapped

862
00:34:19,109 --> 00:34:17,520
around the object but then

863
00:34:22,069 --> 00:34:19,119
how those neuroproprio receptors could

864
00:34:24,389 --> 00:34:22,079
reattach to other nerves inside the body

865
00:34:25,669 --> 00:34:24,399
i have no idea because as soon as those

866
00:34:26,950 --> 00:34:25,679
objects were touched now you got to

867
00:34:29,990 --> 00:34:26,960
realize this one lady

868
00:34:30,710 --> 00:34:30,000
is under hypnotic anesthesia and two

869
00:34:32,629 --> 00:34:30,720
local

870
00:34:34,389 --> 00:34:32,639
injections of carbocane you could have

871
00:34:35,270 --> 00:34:34,399
cut her leg off and she wouldn't have

872
00:34:37,510 --> 00:34:35,280
known it

873
00:34:39,349 --> 00:34:37,520
as soon as those objects were touched

874
00:34:40,869 --> 00:34:39,359
and it was the same case with the man

875
00:34:42,950 --> 00:34:40,879
as soon as the object was touched not

876
00:34:45,030 --> 00:34:42,960
taken out touched there was immediate

877
00:34:46,310 --> 00:34:45,040
violent reaction

878
00:34:48,149 --> 00:34:46,320
which suggests that the objects were

879
00:34:50,069 --> 00:34:48,159
attached to a main nerve the

880
00:34:51,909 --> 00:34:50,079
metallurgical analysis after nearly

881
00:34:52,230 --> 00:34:51,919
fifty thousand dollars of research done

882
00:34:55,349 --> 00:34:52,240
on

883
00:34:55,750 --> 00:34:55,359
them to this date so far shows us that

884
00:34:58,950 --> 00:34:55,760
the

885
00:34:59,829 --> 00:34:58,960
objects uh appear to be meteoric in

886
00:35:01,349 --> 00:34:59,839
origin

887
00:35:03,270 --> 00:35:01,359
the reason they were they use the word

888
00:35:04,310 --> 00:35:03,280
appear is because the closest metals

889
00:35:07,109 --> 00:35:04,320
that they have found

890
00:35:08,870 --> 00:35:07,119
to these objects is the windmin starting

891
00:35:12,950 --> 00:35:08,880
structure meteorite and the

892
00:35:14,950 --> 00:35:12,960
meteorite now these rare meteorites

893
00:35:16,710 --> 00:35:14,960
could explain some of it but the problem

894
00:35:19,030 --> 00:35:16,720
is in meteorites you have

895
00:35:19,910 --> 00:35:19,040
a nickel content of six percent or more

896
00:35:22,550 --> 00:35:19,920
iron

897
00:35:24,390 --> 00:35:22,560
in a meteorite these do not contain that

898
00:35:26,630 --> 00:35:24,400
so this has provided some kind of an

899
00:35:29,190 --> 00:35:26,640
anomaly for them

900
00:35:29,990 --> 00:35:29,200
the so-called alien abductions are close

901
00:35:32,390 --> 00:35:30,000
encounters

902
00:35:34,069 --> 00:35:32,400
of the fourth kind made headlines and

903
00:35:36,230 --> 00:35:34,079
bestsellers in the usa

904
00:35:37,349 --> 00:35:36,240
but it is not an exclusively american

905
00:35:40,069 --> 00:35:37,359
phenomenon

906
00:35:40,710 --> 00:35:40,079
indeed we found events following the

907
00:35:47,240 --> 00:35:40,720
same or

908
00:35:47,250 --> 00:36:03,190
[Applause]

909
00:36:06,950 --> 00:36:05,829
phillip spencer a former police officer

910
00:36:09,190 --> 00:36:06,960
left his house

911
00:36:10,150 --> 00:36:09,200
in ilkley at approximately 10 past seven

912
00:36:13,750 --> 00:36:10,160
in the morning

913
00:36:16,150 --> 00:36:13,760
on the 1st of december 1987.

914
00:36:18,390 --> 00:36:16,160
his intentions were to walk across the

915
00:36:20,310 --> 00:36:18,400
moor and visit a relative who lived in

916
00:36:24,230 --> 00:36:20,320
the village of east morton on the far

917
00:36:27,109 --> 00:36:24,240
side he took with him a camera

918
00:36:29,270 --> 00:36:27,119
and this compass the compass in case he

919
00:36:30,069 --> 00:36:29,280
got lost because he wasn't that familiar

920
00:36:32,150 --> 00:36:30,079
with them all

921
00:36:33,349 --> 00:36:32,160
and the camera to take some photographs

922
00:36:36,230 --> 00:36:33,359
of oakley town

923
00:36:37,030 --> 00:36:36,240
from the more tops he actually began his

924
00:36:39,430 --> 00:36:37,040
walk

925
00:36:41,109 --> 00:36:39,440
just below the white wells building down

926
00:36:45,109 --> 00:36:41,119
there and wound his way

927
00:36:47,990 --> 00:36:45,119
up the hill to this point where we are

928
00:36:48,790 --> 00:36:48,000
he consciously remembers walking along

929
00:36:51,589 --> 00:36:48,800
this path

930
00:36:53,349 --> 00:36:51,599
and then up over the rise and past a

931
00:36:56,390 --> 00:36:53,359
small quarry

932
00:36:57,589 --> 00:36:56,400
just as he was walking past the quarry a

933
00:37:00,550 --> 00:36:57,599
movement caught his

934
00:37:02,470 --> 00:37:00,560
attention from his right eye and he spun

935
00:37:04,870 --> 00:37:02,480
round and he was amazed to see

936
00:37:06,550 --> 00:37:04,880
just about ten feet away from him a

937
00:37:09,829 --> 00:37:06,560
small green creature

938
00:37:12,230 --> 00:37:09,839
about four foot six inches tall

939
00:37:14,790 --> 00:37:12,240
it suddenly turned and scuttled away at

940
00:37:18,150 --> 00:37:14,800
terrific rate away from him

941
00:37:19,510 --> 00:37:18,160
spencer shouted out hey brought the

942
00:37:23,270 --> 00:37:19,520
camera up

943
00:37:25,589 --> 00:37:23,280
and took one shot the creature then

944
00:37:29,750 --> 00:37:25,599
continued running around a bluff

945
00:37:31,829 --> 00:37:29,760
out of sight spencer then ran after it

946
00:37:33,430 --> 00:37:31,839
and as he turned the corner the creature

947
00:37:36,310 --> 00:37:33,440
had disappeared

948
00:37:37,589 --> 00:37:36,320
but he was confronted by a silver disc

949
00:37:40,710 --> 00:37:37,599
shaped object

950
00:37:41,510 --> 00:37:40,720
which almost immediately shot up and

951
00:37:45,510 --> 00:37:41,520
disappeared

952
00:37:47,990 --> 00:37:45,520
in the into the clouds out of sight

953
00:37:50,069 --> 00:37:48,000
instead of continuing his journey he

954
00:37:53,030 --> 00:37:50,079
decided to retrace his steps and go

955
00:37:54,870 --> 00:37:53,040
back down into oakley and a further

956
00:37:57,190 --> 00:37:54,880
surprise awaited him there

957
00:37:58,630 --> 00:37:57,200
because he discovered that the streets

958
00:38:00,550 --> 00:37:58,640
were full of shoppers

959
00:38:02,230 --> 00:38:00,560
the shops were all open and he couldn't

960
00:38:04,310 --> 00:38:02,240
understand this because

961
00:38:06,150 --> 00:38:04,320
to him it should have been about just

962
00:38:08,390 --> 00:38:06,160
after eight o'clock in the morning

963
00:38:10,230 --> 00:38:08,400
and yet when he looked at the clock on

964
00:38:14,660 --> 00:38:10,240
the church tower

965
00:38:16,069 --> 00:38:14,670
he discovered he was now 10 a.m

966
00:38:20,790 --> 00:38:16,079
[Applause]

967
00:38:23,990 --> 00:38:23,030
well it's a very interesting picture my

968
00:38:27,270 --> 00:38:24,000
impression is

969
00:38:28,870 --> 00:38:27,280
that it made my uh my blood pump

970
00:38:31,589 --> 00:38:28,880
you know when you see a picture like

971
00:38:32,150 --> 00:38:31,599
that of course i'm exposed to pictures

972
00:38:35,910 --> 00:38:32,160
like this

973
00:38:39,190 --> 00:38:35,920
all the time ufo craft and

974
00:38:43,589 --> 00:38:39,200
occasionally photographs of beings but

975
00:38:45,589 --> 00:38:43,599
something about it seems right about it

976
00:38:47,510 --> 00:38:45,599
when i first looked at it of course

977
00:38:49,270 --> 00:38:47,520
there was the skepticism that always

978
00:38:53,670 --> 00:38:49,280
goes along with it because

979
00:38:55,990 --> 00:38:53,680
as a scientist i'm to rule out

980
00:38:56,950 --> 00:38:56,000
photographs that would have some aspect

981
00:38:59,990 --> 00:38:56,960
of a hoax

982
00:39:01,109 --> 00:39:00,000
it doesn't seem like it's a hoax it

983
00:39:05,190 --> 00:39:01,119
seems

984
00:39:07,109 --> 00:39:05,200
that it it is what the witness reported

985
00:39:08,630 --> 00:39:07,119
we heard about it from the the chap

986
00:39:10,870 --> 00:39:08,640
himself phoning me

987
00:39:12,150 --> 00:39:10,880
inviting us to go up there to show us a

988
00:39:17,510 --> 00:39:12,160
photograph he'd taken

989
00:39:19,030 --> 00:39:17,520
of this creature um we went to see him

990
00:39:20,470 --> 00:39:19,040
well the first time we went we were a

991
00:39:21,990 --> 00:39:20,480
bit late we got there in the dark he

992
00:39:24,630 --> 00:39:22,000
took us up on the moor he pitched

993
00:39:27,750 --> 00:39:24,640
blackness just to show us the spot

994
00:39:29,190 --> 00:39:27,760
and then we went up again we took peter

995
00:39:30,150 --> 00:39:29,200
off with us this time we did an

996
00:39:36,470 --> 00:39:30,160
interview

997
00:39:38,230 --> 00:39:36,480
then we suggested that

998
00:39:39,750 --> 00:39:38,240
you know i had this missing time period

999
00:39:41,829 --> 00:39:39,760
we suggested that uh

1000
00:39:43,190 --> 00:39:41,839
we could do a hypnotic regression for

1001
00:39:45,349 --> 00:39:43,200
him if we could find something to do and

1002
00:39:46,710 --> 00:39:45,359
if he agreed to it

1003
00:39:49,030 --> 00:39:46,720
at first he was a bit worried about

1004
00:39:51,349 --> 00:39:49,040
hypnotism but we reassured him

1005
00:39:52,550 --> 00:39:51,359
after another week he agreed that he

1006
00:39:54,790 --> 00:39:52,560
would like to be regressed on the

1007
00:39:58,069 --> 00:39:54,800
hypnosis

1008
00:40:01,030 --> 00:39:58,079
so we brought him here to my house

1009
00:40:02,390 --> 00:40:01,040
together with the dr singleton they met

1010
00:40:05,109 --> 00:40:02,400
on a wednesday

1011
00:40:06,630 --> 00:40:05,119
and they had a preliminary discussion

1012
00:40:07,270 --> 00:40:06,640
they agreed to do the session at the

1013
00:40:12,150 --> 00:40:07,280
weekend

1014
00:40:14,150 --> 00:40:12,160
on the saturday then took place

1015
00:40:15,349 --> 00:40:14,160
which explained all the missing time

1016
00:40:18,710 --> 00:40:15,359
period that the

1017
00:40:20,710 --> 00:40:18,720
witness had about meeting these green

1018
00:40:23,589 --> 00:40:20,720
creatures and being taken in the craft

1019
00:40:27,030 --> 00:40:23,599
and shown various moving pictures

1020
00:40:28,710 --> 00:40:27,040
and it also explained

1021
00:40:30,309 --> 00:40:28,720
his compass being reversed it had been

1022
00:40:33,030 --> 00:40:30,319
in a strong magnetic field which

1023
00:40:35,589 --> 00:40:33,040
apparently connected with the craft

1024
00:40:37,030 --> 00:40:35,599
um as far as the case itself is

1025
00:40:40,390 --> 00:40:37,040
concerned i'm 100

1026
00:40:41,990 --> 00:40:40,400
sure that it's genuine hypnosis was

1027
00:40:45,349 --> 00:40:42,000
carried out by a clinical

1028
00:40:46,710 --> 00:40:45,359
psychologist and we discovered that in

1029
00:40:48,630 --> 00:40:46,720
fact the story

1030
00:40:50,390 --> 00:40:48,640
did not begin with the taking of the

1031
00:40:53,829 --> 00:40:50,400
photograph it began

1032
00:40:55,670 --> 00:40:53,839
at this point here just a few yards from

1033
00:40:58,550 --> 00:40:55,680
where we're standing

1034
00:41:00,069 --> 00:40:58,560
it was at this point where he noticed

1035
00:41:03,349 --> 00:41:00,079
the small creature

1036
00:41:05,030 --> 00:41:03,359
coming down the hill towards him

1037
00:41:07,030 --> 00:41:05,040
he stopped because he was absolutely

1038
00:41:09,109 --> 00:41:07,040
petrified with fear

1039
00:41:11,349 --> 00:41:09,119
and wanted to turn and run but he

1040
00:41:14,150 --> 00:41:11,359
discovered that every muscle in his body

1041
00:41:15,910 --> 00:41:14,160
was paralyzed he couldn't move at all

1042
00:41:16,870 --> 00:41:15,920
the creature then turned around and

1043
00:41:19,430 --> 00:41:16,880
started going back

1044
00:41:19,990 --> 00:41:19,440
up the hill and he discovered to his

1045
00:41:22,230 --> 00:41:20,000
aura

1046
00:41:23,510 --> 00:41:22,240
that he was actually following it but he

1047
00:41:26,550 --> 00:41:23,520
wasn't walking

1048
00:41:29,910 --> 00:41:26,560
he was now levitated a few inches

1049
00:41:32,390 --> 00:41:29,920
above the ground um similar to a balloon

1050
00:41:34,069 --> 00:41:32,400
being tethered by a piece of string he

1051
00:41:37,270 --> 00:41:34,079
was pulled up the hill

1052
00:41:40,309 --> 00:41:37,280
over the prow of the hill and into the

1053
00:41:41,270 --> 00:41:40,319
small quarry at the other side in the

1054
00:41:43,910 --> 00:41:41,280
quarry

1055
00:41:44,710 --> 00:41:43,920
he saw for the first time the silver

1056
00:41:47,109 --> 00:41:44,720
disk

1057
00:41:48,790 --> 00:41:47,119
and a door opened in it but he has no

1058
00:41:49,589 --> 00:41:48,800
memory of actually going inside the

1059
00:41:51,990 --> 00:41:49,599
object

1060
00:41:53,349 --> 00:41:52,000
just an overwhelming blackness which

1061
00:41:56,230 --> 00:41:53,359
then disappeared

1062
00:41:59,109 --> 00:41:56,240
and he found himself in a white room he

1063
00:42:01,109 --> 00:41:59,119
was very brightly illuminated with white

1064
00:42:02,309 --> 00:42:01,119
light but he could see no source for

1065
00:42:04,150 --> 00:42:02,319
that light

1066
00:42:05,510 --> 00:42:04,160
he heard a voice in his head telling him

1067
00:42:07,829 --> 00:42:05,520
not to be afraid

1068
00:42:09,270 --> 00:42:07,839
and ordering him to lie down on a table

1069
00:42:11,270 --> 00:42:09,280
which was in the room

1070
00:42:12,950 --> 00:42:11,280
this he did and he found he couldn't

1071
00:42:16,950 --> 00:42:12,960
move and he was surrounded by

1072
00:42:18,790 --> 00:42:16,960
four or five of the green creatures

1073
00:42:20,950 --> 00:42:18,800
they carried out some kind of medical

1074
00:42:24,230 --> 00:42:20,960
examination which basically

1075
00:42:26,630 --> 00:42:24,240
involved a fluorescent

1076
00:42:28,710 --> 00:42:26,640
uh light in the shape of a tube which

1077
00:42:29,510 --> 00:42:28,720
passed along the length of his body much

1078
00:42:32,390 --> 00:42:29,520
in the way

1079
00:42:34,390 --> 00:42:32,400
of a body scanner he was then told he

1080
00:42:35,589 --> 00:42:34,400
could get off the table and given a

1081
00:42:38,230 --> 00:42:35,599
conducted tour

1082
00:42:39,829 --> 00:42:38,240
of the object this involved taking him

1083
00:42:41,990 --> 00:42:39,839
down the corridor

1084
00:42:43,670 --> 00:42:42,000
and he looked through a window and

1085
00:42:44,230 --> 00:42:43,680
couldn't believe his eyes because there

1086
00:42:46,230 --> 00:42:44,240
was the

1087
00:42:48,630 --> 00:42:46,240
planet earth in the distance for the

1088
00:42:51,109 --> 00:42:48,640
first time he realized he wasn't

1089
00:42:52,550 --> 00:42:51,119
on the earth he was somewhere high up in

1090
00:42:54,710 --> 00:42:52,560
space

1091
00:42:55,750 --> 00:42:54,720
he was taken into a room which seemed to

1092
00:42:58,069 --> 00:42:55,760
be an

1093
00:42:59,750 --> 00:42:58,079
engine room there was a piece of

1094
00:43:02,550 --> 00:42:59,760
equipment in the middle of it

1095
00:43:03,349 --> 00:43:02,560
which was like a gyroscope this was

1096
00:43:05,990 --> 00:43:03,359
spinning

1097
00:43:07,910 --> 00:43:06,000
rapidly and his camera which was hanging

1098
00:43:11,349 --> 00:43:07,920
around his neck by a cord

1099
00:43:15,430 --> 00:43:11,359
was drawn towards it as was the

1100
00:43:18,309 --> 00:43:15,440
compass he was then taken from that room

1101
00:43:19,349 --> 00:43:18,319
uh into another where he was shown two

1102
00:43:22,950 --> 00:43:19,359
films

1103
00:43:26,309 --> 00:43:22,960
were more three-dimensional

1104
00:43:28,069 --> 00:43:26,319
very realistic in the first film he was

1105
00:43:31,190 --> 00:43:28,079
shown the planet earth

1106
00:43:32,630 --> 00:43:31,200
and he saw people starving millions of

1107
00:43:35,990 --> 00:43:32,640
people starving

1108
00:43:38,550 --> 00:43:36,000
he saw rivers full of pollution it was

1109
00:43:39,270 --> 00:43:38,560
the worst parts of the planet earth now

1110
00:43:41,510 --> 00:43:39,280
but

1111
00:43:42,470 --> 00:43:41,520
made much much worse it was our own

1112
00:43:43,910 --> 00:43:42,480
future

1113
00:43:45,270 --> 00:43:43,920
and there was a warning here that we

1114
00:43:46,230 --> 00:43:45,280
have to get our act together as a

1115
00:43:48,950 --> 00:43:46,240
species

1116
00:43:49,510 --> 00:43:48,960
otherwise this is what would happen it

1117
00:43:52,309 --> 00:43:49,520
was then

1118
00:43:53,990 --> 00:43:52,319
shown a second film now i believe this

1119
00:43:56,470 --> 00:43:54,000
was very personal because neither

1120
00:43:57,589 --> 00:43:56,480
under hypnosis nor consciously since

1121
00:44:00,630 --> 00:43:57,599
when he discussed

1122
00:44:01,430 --> 00:44:00,640
the details of this it's quite possible

1123
00:44:04,550 --> 00:44:01,440
from one or two

1124
00:44:07,430 --> 00:44:04,560
hints i've had from philip spencer

1125
00:44:09,589 --> 00:44:07,440
that he predicted his own personal

1126
00:44:11,910 --> 00:44:09,599
future

1127
00:44:13,510 --> 00:44:11,920
the next thing he remembers is being

1128
00:44:17,030 --> 00:44:13,520
back on the moor

1129
00:44:19,030 --> 00:44:17,040
and suddenly seeing the green creature

1130
00:44:20,069 --> 00:44:19,040
and having no memory of what had just

1131
00:44:22,150 --> 00:44:20,079
happened

1132
00:44:23,190 --> 00:44:22,160
bringing up the camera taking the

1133
00:44:25,829 --> 00:44:23,200
photograph

1134
00:44:27,190 --> 00:44:25,839
chasing it seeing the object which then

1135
00:44:31,109 --> 00:44:27,200
rapidly disappeared

1136
00:44:31,829 --> 00:44:31,119
up into the air well it was a perfectly

1137
00:44:33,910 --> 00:44:31,839
normal

1138
00:44:35,829 --> 00:44:33,920
session to him and he did nothing about

1139
00:44:36,870 --> 00:44:35,839
aliens or spacecraft or anything like

1140
00:44:38,870 --> 00:44:36,880
that he's just

1141
00:44:39,910 --> 00:44:38,880
doing a straightforward regression on a

1142
00:44:41,829 --> 00:44:39,920
person and

1143
00:44:43,670 --> 00:44:41,839
as far as he was concerned all the

1144
00:44:46,870 --> 00:44:43,680
normal reactions occurred

1145
00:44:48,950 --> 00:44:46,880
that a person would do when telling the

1146
00:44:50,790 --> 00:44:48,960
truth under hypnosis

1147
00:44:53,109 --> 00:44:50,800
so he was very impressed with it okay

1148
00:44:54,230 --> 00:44:53,119
well one of the interesting aspects of

1149
00:44:57,510 --> 00:44:54,240
this picture

1150
00:44:59,349 --> 00:44:57,520
is this tubular shaped object that's up

1151
00:45:02,309 --> 00:44:59,359
on the horizon here

1152
00:45:03,109 --> 00:45:02,319
um we thought it was some kind of pipe

1153
00:45:07,190 --> 00:45:03,119
or perhaps an

1154
00:45:09,829 --> 00:45:07,200
antenna or something in doing contour

1155
00:45:11,829 --> 00:45:09,839
enhancement and building a contour map

1156
00:45:14,470 --> 00:45:11,839
like a topographical map

1157
00:45:16,630 --> 00:45:14,480
it is indeed a cylinder and you could

1158
00:45:18,710 --> 00:45:16,640
view it as a cylinder perhaps

1159
00:45:20,390 --> 00:45:18,720
three and a half inches or so in

1160
00:45:22,309 --> 00:45:20,400
diameter two to three inches because we

1161
00:45:24,069 --> 00:45:22,319
don't know the different distance away

1162
00:45:26,230 --> 00:45:24,079
we do know that it's a cylinder shape

1163
00:45:29,910 --> 00:45:26,240
and it's reflecting light

1164
00:45:33,349 --> 00:45:29,920
therefore from filtering inverse phong

1165
00:45:34,870 --> 00:45:33,359
shading filtering we believe that it's a

1166
00:45:36,550 --> 00:45:34,880
metallic object

1167
00:45:38,550 --> 00:45:36,560
we'll have to do some more tests on to

1168
00:45:39,109 --> 00:45:38,560
be certain of that but we know for

1169
00:45:42,150 --> 00:45:39,119
certain

1170
00:45:43,430 --> 00:45:42,160
that it's not a natural object it's not

1171
00:45:45,750 --> 00:45:43,440
a tree

1172
00:45:47,430 --> 00:45:45,760
branch it's not the trunk of a bush or

1173
00:45:48,870 --> 00:45:47,440
something like that it's a metallic

1174
00:45:51,990 --> 00:45:48,880
object

1175
00:45:52,790 --> 00:45:52,000
well it's got loads and loads of ancient

1176
00:45:56,470 --> 00:45:52,800
stones

1177
00:45:57,589 --> 00:45:56,480
circles and carved rocks the swastikas

1178
00:45:59,910 --> 00:45:57,599
on them and that kind of thing

1179
00:46:01,589 --> 00:45:59,920
and cup and ring marks so there's many

1180
00:46:03,430 --> 00:46:01,599
legends attached to it

1181
00:46:05,190 --> 00:46:03,440
but one of the most interesting ones as

1182
00:46:07,990 --> 00:46:05,200
far as this case goes is that white

1183
00:46:10,069 --> 00:46:08,000
walls museum which is a spa

1184
00:46:11,589 --> 00:46:10,079
in the 19th century something happened

1185
00:46:13,589 --> 00:46:11,599
there the curator of the museum was

1186
00:46:15,990 --> 00:46:13,599
going to open up one morning when he

1187
00:46:17,750 --> 00:46:16,000
heard a noise from inside and he opened

1188
00:46:19,829 --> 00:46:17,760
the door and he found inside

1189
00:46:22,309 --> 00:46:19,839
several green creatures dancing around

1190
00:46:24,630 --> 00:46:22,319
the spa

1191
00:46:30,069 --> 00:46:24,640
small green creatures very similar to

1192
00:46:33,670 --> 00:46:32,710
philip spencer is not the only british

1193
00:46:39,270 --> 00:46:33,680
policeman

1194
00:46:42,150 --> 00:46:40,630
he was driving back to the police

1195
00:46:43,030 --> 00:46:42,160
station about quarter to five one

1196
00:46:45,990 --> 00:46:43,040
morning

1197
00:46:46,630 --> 00:46:46,000
and he was about to turn right at the

1198
00:46:49,510 --> 00:46:46,640
leg of a t

1199
00:46:50,550 --> 00:46:49,520
junction when he noticed something odd

1200
00:46:52,790 --> 00:46:50,560
illuminated

1201
00:46:54,150 --> 00:46:52,800
further up the road uh at first he

1202
00:46:55,430 --> 00:46:54,160
thought it was a worx burst

1203
00:46:57,430 --> 00:46:55,440
and he looked again and realized it

1204
00:46:57,829 --> 00:46:57,440
wasn't so he drove on to have a look at

1205
00:47:03,589 --> 00:46:57,839
it

1206
00:47:06,390 --> 00:47:03,599
described as a classic flying saucer

1207
00:47:07,990 --> 00:47:06,400
blocking his uh route through the road

1208
00:47:09,910 --> 00:47:08,000
he tried to summon assistance with his

1209
00:47:10,870 --> 00:47:09,920
car radio and his personal radio neither

1210
00:47:13,349 --> 00:47:10,880
would work

1211
00:47:14,950 --> 00:47:13,359
then he did a drawing of the object when

1212
00:47:17,589 --> 00:47:14,960
i just as he'd finished the drawing

1213
00:47:19,190 --> 00:47:17,599
he found himself driving in first gear

1214
00:47:19,990 --> 00:47:19,200
on the other side of where the object

1215
00:47:22,630 --> 00:47:20,000
had been but

1216
00:47:23,349 --> 00:47:22,640
he looked in his mirror and it had gone

1217
00:47:25,030 --> 00:47:23,359
um

1218
00:47:28,150 --> 00:47:25,040
he then realized that he'd lost about 20

1219
00:47:31,109 --> 00:47:28,160
minutes to half an hour of time

1220
00:47:32,630 --> 00:47:31,119
the object itself was cited by other

1221
00:47:34,069 --> 00:47:32,640
police officers on the moors

1222
00:47:35,910 --> 00:47:34,079
outside halifax who are looking for

1223
00:47:37,910 --> 00:47:35,920
stolen motorbikes they

1224
00:47:39,109 --> 00:47:37,920
are radioed in i have a video filmed

1225
00:47:40,150 --> 00:47:39,119
interview with two out of three of those

1226
00:47:42,950 --> 00:47:40,160
police officers

1227
00:47:44,710 --> 00:47:42,960
they radioed in to their headquarters to

1228
00:47:45,190 --> 00:47:44,720
see if anybody could identify it for

1229
00:47:48,470 --> 00:47:45,200
them

1230
00:47:51,349 --> 00:47:48,480
and they they hq checked with

1231
00:47:51,990 --> 00:47:51,359
leeds bradford airport the military etc

1232
00:47:55,109 --> 00:47:52,000
uh there were no

1233
00:47:57,589 --> 00:47:55,119
aircraft in the vicinity uh no nothing

1234
00:47:58,309 --> 00:47:57,599
no army maneuvers nothing that could

1235
00:48:00,230 --> 00:47:58,319
explain

1236
00:48:01,349 --> 00:48:00,240
he then describes a bright light coming

1237
00:48:03,750 --> 00:48:01,359
from underneath it

1238
00:48:04,710 --> 00:48:03,760
gets back in his car finds his car won't

1239
00:48:07,750 --> 00:48:04,720
go

1240
00:48:09,190 --> 00:48:07,760
then he seems to black out he has a

1241
00:48:13,589 --> 00:48:09,200
sensation of

1242
00:48:16,790 --> 00:48:13,599
wakes up inside a room

1243
00:48:19,430 --> 00:48:16,800
surrounded by several small robots and

1244
00:48:19,990 --> 00:48:19,440
a humanoid character he's led to a bed

1245
00:48:23,030 --> 00:48:20,000
he's eventually

1246
00:48:25,430 --> 00:48:23,040
persuaded to lie down on this bed and

1247
00:48:27,430 --> 00:48:25,440
some sort of pseudo-medical examination

1248
00:48:30,309 --> 00:48:27,440
or process is carried out on him

1249
00:48:32,150 --> 00:48:30,319
which to us does not make any sense uh

1250
00:48:33,270 --> 00:48:32,160
he receives a telepathic communication

1251
00:48:35,990 --> 00:48:33,280
from the humanoid

1252
00:48:37,990 --> 00:48:36,000
character telling him not to be afraid

1253
00:48:39,829 --> 00:48:38,000
under hypnosis he even describes or

1254
00:48:40,870 --> 00:48:39,839
impersonates the voice that he is in his

1255
00:48:42,630 --> 00:48:40,880
mind

1256
00:48:45,829 --> 00:48:42,640
which is a voice i've heard many other

1257
00:48:47,109 --> 00:48:45,839
witnesses similarly describe

1258
00:48:48,950 --> 00:48:47,119
eventually when they finish doing

1259
00:48:50,870 --> 00:48:48,960
whatever they are doing with him he's

1260
00:48:52,549 --> 00:48:50,880
put back down again in his car

1261
00:48:54,549 --> 00:48:52,559
and the conscious memory of course takes

1262
00:49:02,069 --> 00:48:54,559
over he's driving on the other side of

1263
00:49:04,630 --> 00:49:02,079
where the object would be

1264
00:49:05,190 --> 00:49:04,640
in london england we interviewed nick

1265
00:49:07,990 --> 00:49:05,200
pope

1266
00:49:09,589 --> 00:49:08,000
the former official ministry of defense

1267
00:49:11,750 --> 00:49:09,599
ufo expert

1268
00:49:17,660 --> 00:49:11,760
in this function he had investigated

1269
00:49:23,190 --> 00:49:17,670
several cases of alleged alien abduction

1270
00:49:26,390 --> 00:49:25,430
my second book the uninvited deals with

1271
00:49:28,230 --> 00:49:26,400
abductions

1272
00:49:30,710 --> 00:49:28,240
and it was a subject that i was led to

1273
00:49:33,030 --> 00:49:30,720
logically through my official research

1274
00:49:34,549 --> 00:49:33,040
uh into ufos uh carried out at the

1275
00:49:38,230 --> 00:49:34,559
ministry of defence

1276
00:49:39,990 --> 00:49:38,240
simply when i first began to

1277
00:49:41,829 --> 00:49:40,000
obviously display a real interest in

1278
00:49:42,710 --> 00:49:41,839
this subject and take these reports

1279
00:49:45,349 --> 00:49:42,720
seriously

1280
00:49:47,750 --> 00:49:45,359
i found that some people began to

1281
00:49:49,510 --> 00:49:47,760
approach me with stories of abductions

1282
00:49:50,790 --> 00:49:49,520
clearly i couldn't ignore these very

1283
00:49:53,109 --> 00:49:50,800
serious claims

1284
00:49:55,349 --> 00:49:53,119
so i made it my business to look into

1285
00:49:57,190 --> 00:49:55,359
the background to these sorts of claims

1286
00:49:58,470 --> 00:49:57,200
and to actually do my own research and

1287
00:49:59,910 --> 00:49:58,480
investigation

1288
00:50:01,510 --> 00:49:59,920
my view is that clearly there is

1289
00:50:04,470 --> 00:50:01,520
something going on here

1290
00:50:06,390 --> 00:50:04,480
the official ministry of defense view is

1291
00:50:08,710 --> 00:50:06,400
is actually rather amusing

1292
00:50:10,230 --> 00:50:08,720
they they were asked specifically about

1293
00:50:13,510 --> 00:50:10,240
alien abductions

1294
00:50:15,349 --> 00:50:13,520
and a formal reply came back

1295
00:50:17,030 --> 00:50:15,359
in the form of a letter from the

1296
00:50:19,829 --> 00:50:17,040
department and it said

1297
00:50:35,349 --> 00:50:19,839
abduction is a criminal offence and as

1298
00:50:42,790 --> 00:50:39,270
the most impressive experience i had is

1299
00:50:43,910 --> 00:50:42,800
a full contact that happened to me in

1300
00:50:48,630 --> 00:50:43,920
november 11

1301
00:50:51,670 --> 00:50:48,640
1981 at 10 30 p.m in the south of france

1302
00:50:53,190 --> 00:50:51,680
as we were driving to my brother's

1303
00:50:57,589 --> 00:50:53,200
discotheque

1304
00:50:59,270 --> 00:50:57,599
on that evening we saw some light

1305
00:51:01,270 --> 00:50:59,280
which happened to be a spaceship of

1306
00:51:03,190 --> 00:51:01,280
course at this point i did not know it

1307
00:51:05,589 --> 00:51:03,200
was a spaceship

1308
00:51:07,589 --> 00:51:05,599
but it happened once in a million with

1309
00:51:09,430 --> 00:51:07,599
this way the flying saucer came up right

1310
00:51:10,790 --> 00:51:09,440
above the car and my brother at that

1311
00:51:13,109 --> 00:51:10,800
time used to drive

1312
00:51:14,390 --> 00:51:13,119
a brand new methodist which is a very

1313
00:51:18,309 --> 00:51:14,400
reliable car

1314
00:51:20,790 --> 00:51:18,319
everything died and we both were totally

1315
00:51:22,870 --> 00:51:20,800
surprised what was happening

1316
00:51:23,829 --> 00:51:22,880
as we both look up through the

1317
00:51:25,589 --> 00:51:23,839
windscreen

1318
00:51:27,910 --> 00:51:25,599
the only thing we could see is all this

1319
00:51:30,150 --> 00:51:27,920
light that was blinding us

1320
00:51:31,670 --> 00:51:30,160
so my brother was very scared but i

1321
00:51:34,790 --> 00:51:31,680
managed to go out

1322
00:51:37,829 --> 00:51:34,800
for the car and then for some reason

1323
00:51:39,109 --> 00:51:37,839
these intelligent spirits must be

1324
00:51:40,230 --> 00:51:39,119
intelligent because they turned their

1325
00:51:43,190 --> 00:51:40,240
lights off

1326
00:51:44,549 --> 00:51:43,200
and i could discern very clearly michael

1327
00:51:48,069 --> 00:51:44,559
less than 30 feet

1328
00:51:50,069 --> 00:51:48,079
above my head a flying saucer

1329
00:51:51,750 --> 00:51:50,079
this is my first experience yes i do

1330
00:51:52,790 --> 00:51:51,760
recall this one but remember i was a

1331
00:51:55,990 --> 00:51:52,800
child

1332
00:51:57,750 --> 00:51:56,000
and i was complaining as i could not be

1333
00:51:59,750 --> 00:51:57,760
left alone

1334
00:52:01,190 --> 00:51:59,760
i was complaining to my mom that small

1335
00:52:03,270 --> 00:52:01,200
little thing was coming

1336
00:52:05,190 --> 00:52:03,280
every night in my bedroom and i

1337
00:52:08,069 --> 00:52:05,200
described them as little monkeys

1338
00:52:08,790 --> 00:52:08,079
of course not having any ufos experience

1339
00:52:10,630 --> 00:52:08,800
before

1340
00:52:11,910 --> 00:52:10,640
i did i didn't know what those things

1341
00:52:16,870 --> 00:52:11,920
were

1342
00:52:18,069 --> 00:52:16,880
used to hide away from them behind the

1343
00:52:19,349 --> 00:52:18,079
blanket

1344
00:52:21,349 --> 00:52:19,359
then once i get a little bit more

1345
00:52:23,829 --> 00:52:21,359
courageous and i kind of pip out and i

1346
00:52:27,190 --> 00:52:23,839
had one of them very very close to me

1347
00:52:28,549 --> 00:52:27,200
and i passed out and then when i was in

1348
00:52:30,870 --> 00:52:28,559
the regression

1349
00:52:32,470 --> 00:52:30,880
i was recalling you know all sorts of

1350
00:52:34,390 --> 00:52:32,480
very very interesting things which i

1351
00:52:35,270 --> 00:52:34,400
have problem myself to understand or

1352
00:52:44,829 --> 00:52:35,280
believe

1353
00:52:44,839 --> 00:52:48,549
here

1354
00:52:52,230 --> 00:52:51,030
well it was in 85 when i had actually

1355
00:52:54,230 --> 00:52:52,240
invited them to come

1356
00:52:55,990 --> 00:52:54,240
because i had met an american

1357
00:52:57,270 --> 00:52:56,000
czechoslovakian doctor who said he was

1358
00:53:00,069 --> 00:52:57,280
flying with ufos

1359
00:53:00,630 --> 00:53:00,079
so i said why don't you take me along

1360
00:53:03,750 --> 00:53:00,640
and

1361
00:53:05,910 --> 00:53:03,760
one day when i was reading a book called

1362
00:53:07,190 --> 00:53:05,920
actually was a book of poems called um

1363
00:53:09,270 --> 00:53:07,200
the first contact

1364
00:53:11,109 --> 00:53:09,280
with a friend all of a sudden i looked

1365
00:53:12,470 --> 00:53:11,119
outside from the window and there it was

1366
00:53:15,750 --> 00:53:12,480
100 yards from me

1367
00:53:16,309 --> 00:53:15,760
the ufo and i went into total panic

1368
00:53:17,910 --> 00:53:16,319
because i

1369
00:53:19,990 --> 00:53:17,920
realized that i was dealing with

1370
00:53:22,790 --> 00:53:20,000
something which i didn't understand

1371
00:53:24,790 --> 00:53:22,800
that very night later i found out i was

1372
00:53:27,430 --> 00:53:24,800
abducted for the first time

1373
00:53:30,069 --> 00:53:27,440
and that changed my whole life and all

1374
00:53:32,230 --> 00:53:30,079
of a sudden i saw myself

1375
00:53:33,990 --> 00:53:32,240
on a table being operated on and i'm a

1376
00:53:35,030 --> 00:53:34,000
medical doctor so of course i was very

1377
00:53:37,109 --> 00:53:35,040
interested

1378
00:53:38,549 --> 00:53:37,119
in the technique and the technique was

1379
00:53:41,190 --> 00:53:38,559
very very advanced

1380
00:53:42,790 --> 00:53:41,200
in our comparison to our medical

1381
00:53:45,829 --> 00:53:42,800
technique today it was

1382
00:53:47,190 --> 00:53:45,839
laser beams it was colors and i couldn't

1383
00:53:50,230 --> 00:53:47,200
understand what was being done

1384
00:53:52,950 --> 00:53:50,240
but i did understand something that they

1385
00:53:54,230 --> 00:53:52,960
for instance were implanting implants

1386
00:53:56,790 --> 00:53:54,240
into my body

1387
00:53:57,349 --> 00:53:56,800
and i didn't know why now i know when i

1388
00:53:59,750 --> 00:53:57,359
have

1389
00:54:00,790 --> 00:53:59,760
heard more about it that these implants

1390
00:54:03,589 --> 00:54:00,800
are for

1391
00:54:06,230 --> 00:54:03,599
changing our vibrational level and for

1392
00:54:09,430 --> 00:54:06,240
helping us in case of crisis for storing

1393
00:54:11,270 --> 00:54:09,440
information and that is one of the very

1394
00:54:12,950 --> 00:54:11,280
big things i think that people should

1395
00:54:14,710 --> 00:54:12,960
learn to know about that we are being

1396
00:54:18,230 --> 00:54:14,720
controlled we are being

1397
00:54:19,670 --> 00:54:18,240
taught we are being actually taken as

1398
00:54:22,630 --> 00:54:19,680
members of the

1399
00:54:23,670 --> 00:54:22,640
galaxies as i would say the u.n of the

1400
00:54:25,750 --> 00:54:23,680
galaxies

1401
00:54:26,870 --> 00:54:25,760
and the people who have had the contacts

1402
00:54:29,030 --> 00:54:26,880
and have had

1403
00:54:30,630 --> 00:54:29,040
abductions they are the contact people

1404
00:54:32,069 --> 00:54:30,640
it's a very positive thing

1405
00:54:39,730 --> 00:54:32,079
even if many people are very very

1406
00:54:43,410 --> 00:54:39,740
frightened of the medical examination

1407
00:54:45,800 --> 00:54:43,420
[Applause]

1408
00:54:51,810 --> 00:54:45,810
[Music]

1409
00:54:53,170 --> 00:54:51,820
[Applause]

1410
00:54:56,830 --> 00:54:53,180
[Music]

1411
00:55:00,600 --> 00:54:56,840
[Applause]

1412
00:55:02,580 --> 00:55:00,610
[Music]

1413
00:55:08,069 --> 00:55:02,590
[Applause]

1414
00:55:10,230 --> 00:55:08,079
[Music]

1415
00:55:12,069 --> 00:55:10,240
i made numerous regressions with people

1416
00:55:13,589 --> 00:55:12,079
who under hypnosis

1417
00:55:15,910 --> 00:55:13,599
remembered how they found themselves

1418
00:55:18,710 --> 00:55:15,920
lying on a table surrounded by small

1419
00:55:20,390 --> 00:55:18,720
gray humanoid extraterrestrials

1420
00:55:22,309 --> 00:55:20,400
in other cases they remembered how they

1421
00:55:24,710 --> 00:55:22,319
were guided into the spaceship

1422
00:55:25,510 --> 00:55:24,720
how the aliens show them their craft its

1423
00:55:41,290 --> 00:55:25,520
monitors

1424
00:55:55,510 --> 00:55:43,330
[Applause]

1425
00:55:58,710 --> 00:55:57,510
they look very different one from the

1426
00:56:06,390 --> 00:55:58,720
other

1427
00:56:10,470 --> 00:56:06,400
world let me explain

1428
00:56:13,349 --> 00:56:10,480
let's say the the greys the eb's

1429
00:56:14,470 --> 00:56:13,359
that are so much say the fashion in the

1430
00:56:16,630 --> 00:56:14,480
states

1431
00:56:19,030 --> 00:56:16,640
you only think of the craze in the

1432
00:56:21,829 --> 00:56:19,040
united states

1433
00:56:23,670 --> 00:56:21,839
we have some of those but sometimes with

1434
00:56:27,829 --> 00:56:23,680
other characteristics

1435
00:56:31,109 --> 00:56:27,839
and we have all other kinds i should say

1436
00:56:32,309 --> 00:56:31,119
that we have quite a quantity of cases

1437
00:56:36,150 --> 00:56:32,319
in which

1438
00:56:39,190 --> 00:56:36,160
they look like humans or like

1439
00:56:43,030 --> 00:56:39,200
very similar to humans or much

1440
00:56:46,069 --> 00:56:43,040
more beautiful and taller than humans

1441
00:56:49,190 --> 00:56:46,079
or like what we would call

1442
00:56:51,510 --> 00:56:49,200
not monsters but freaks of nature

1443
00:56:53,829 --> 00:56:51,520
something very different to what we're

1444
00:56:56,829 --> 00:56:53,839
accustomed to

1445
00:57:00,090 --> 00:56:56,839
that is a very intriguing aspect of the

1446
00:57:26,309 --> 00:57:18,990
[Music]

1447
00:57:28,230 --> 00:57:26,319
[Applause]

1448
00:57:29,510 --> 00:57:28,240
a lonely road in the outbacks of

1449
00:57:32,630 --> 00:57:29,520
australia

1450
00:57:34,069 --> 00:57:32,640
the great down under was a scene of an

1451
00:57:36,069 --> 00:57:34,079
unique mass abduction

1452
00:57:38,470 --> 00:57:36,079
in the early hours of sunday morning

1453
00:57:40,470 --> 00:57:38,480
august 8 1993

1454
00:57:42,789 --> 00:57:40,480
three independent groups of people

1455
00:57:45,670 --> 00:57:42,799
traveling in separate cars were taken

1456
00:57:48,230 --> 00:57:45,680
aboard an alien craft and only later

1457
00:57:49,030 --> 00:57:48,240
remember the event without knowing each

1458
00:57:52,150 --> 00:57:49,040
other

1459
00:57:53,670 --> 00:57:52,160
kelly cahill was one of them

1460
00:57:55,990 --> 00:57:53,680
when my husband and i were driving home

1461
00:58:00,230 --> 00:57:56,000
from a friend's house one night when

1462
00:58:01,829 --> 00:58:00,240
we saw a a 50 meter craft in a field a

1463
00:58:04,950 --> 00:58:01,839
paddock on the side of the road and

1464
00:58:05,750 --> 00:58:04,960
um we stopped and got out and crossed

1465
00:58:08,309 --> 00:58:05,760
the road

1466
00:58:10,870 --> 00:58:08,319
and so did a second party of individuals

1467
00:58:13,109 --> 00:58:10,880
who pulled up about 100 metres behind us

1468
00:58:14,309 --> 00:58:13,119
all i could remember was seeing a craft

1469
00:58:15,510 --> 00:58:14,319
hovering in the air

1470
00:58:17,430 --> 00:58:15,520
which we've encountered a couple of

1471
00:58:18,950 --> 00:58:17,440
kilometers beforehand and then

1472
00:58:20,630 --> 00:58:18,960
just seeing a blinding light and

1473
00:58:21,990 --> 00:58:20,640
remembering nothing um

1474
00:58:24,309 --> 00:58:22,000
except knowing that something had

1475
00:58:25,190 --> 00:58:24,319
happened because uh my heart was

1476
00:58:26,470 --> 00:58:25,200
thumping and

1477
00:58:28,230 --> 00:58:26,480
and the adrenaline was pumping through

1478
00:58:30,630 --> 00:58:28,240
my body and all of a sudden

1479
00:58:31,990 --> 00:58:30,640
i'm totally disoriented and relaxed in

1480
00:58:32,390 --> 00:58:32,000
the car and i didn't know what had gone

1481
00:58:34,789 --> 00:58:32,400
on

1482
00:58:35,430 --> 00:58:34,799
it was like i had a blackout driving

1483
00:58:37,670 --> 00:58:35,440
back past

1484
00:58:39,510 --> 00:58:37,680
the same area i um just got this

1485
00:58:39,829 --> 00:58:39,520
horrifying feeling in my stomach and i

1486
00:58:41,349 --> 00:58:39,839
just

1487
00:58:42,870 --> 00:58:41,359
remembered everything that had happened

1488
00:58:43,670 --> 00:58:42,880
when we stopped the car out on the field

1489
00:58:47,430 --> 00:58:43,680
but

1490
00:58:48,950 --> 00:58:47,440
i um had probably about six weeks

1491
00:58:50,710 --> 00:58:48,960
where i couldn't remember anything where

1492
00:58:52,309 --> 00:58:50,720
i had this blank space and i've still

1493
00:58:54,549 --> 00:58:52,319
got some missing time it's not all there

1494
00:58:56,150 --> 00:58:54,559
it's only the first 10 minutes

1495
00:58:57,589 --> 00:58:56,160
basically after we got out of the car we

1496
00:58:59,510 --> 00:58:57,599
saw this uh this

1497
00:59:01,829 --> 00:58:59,520
craft i suppose some sort of

1498
00:59:03,990 --> 00:59:01,839
configuration of round orange lights

1499
00:59:05,190 --> 00:59:04,000
with a blue fluorescent haze underneath

1500
00:59:08,150 --> 00:59:05,200
it um that

1501
00:59:10,230 --> 00:59:08,160
came down in a uh a conical shape and

1502
00:59:14,069 --> 00:59:10,240
hit the ground in a semi circle

1503
00:59:16,309 --> 00:59:14,079
and um and as we stood there

1504
00:59:17,750 --> 00:59:16,319
a tall black being seemed to just appear

1505
00:59:17,990 --> 00:59:17,760
in front of it followed by seven or

1506
00:59:21,589 --> 00:59:18,000
eight

1507
00:59:23,109 --> 00:59:21,599
others i felt this energy force through

1508
00:59:24,549 --> 00:59:23,119
my body is the only way i can explain it

1509
00:59:28,390 --> 00:59:24,559
and i became hysterical and

1510
00:59:30,950 --> 00:59:28,400
um they came rushing across the field

1511
00:59:33,829 --> 00:59:30,960
i was given a blow to the stomach and

1512
00:59:35,829 --> 00:59:33,839
landed flat on my back in the grass and

1513
00:59:37,430 --> 00:59:35,839
basically there was a bit of a

1514
00:59:40,390 --> 00:59:37,440
conversation going on that

1515
00:59:41,430 --> 00:59:40,400
i could hear a male voice but uh i guess

1516
00:59:43,750 --> 00:59:41,440
that

1517
00:59:45,990 --> 00:59:43,760
i was really struggling to stay

1518
00:59:48,230 --> 00:59:46,000
conscious at that stage and um

1519
00:59:49,430 --> 00:59:48,240
i remember the last thing i remember was

1520
00:59:51,750 --> 00:59:49,440
uh

1521
00:59:53,430 --> 00:59:51,760
calling calling for god's help i suppose

1522
00:59:55,109 --> 00:59:53,440
and and we were back in the cast about

1523
00:59:59,270 --> 00:59:55,119
seven foot tall they were black

1524
01:00:00,630 --> 00:59:59,280
um their eyes lit up red

1525
01:00:02,710 --> 01:00:00,640
they weren't like that at first only

1526
01:00:04,230 --> 01:00:02,720
when i started screaming um

1527
01:00:06,470 --> 01:00:04,240
and that's when they crossed the field

1528
01:00:07,750 --> 01:00:06,480
as well um

1529
01:00:09,510 --> 01:00:07,760
basically i couldn't see any other

1530
01:00:12,630 --> 01:00:09,520
facial features except these big glowing

1531
01:00:15,670 --> 01:00:12,640
red eyes and these tall dark figures um

1532
01:00:17,190 --> 01:00:15,680
yeah that was about about what we saw if

1533
01:00:17,829 --> 01:00:17,200
kelly had come in on her own we wouldn't

1534
01:00:20,470 --> 01:00:17,839
have found it

1535
01:00:21,750 --> 01:00:20,480
uh just a normal case but um what

1536
01:00:23,670 --> 01:00:21,760
occurred was that we were up

1537
01:00:25,510 --> 01:00:23,680
the other couple uh the other car that

1538
01:00:27,109 --> 01:00:25,520
was involved in the encounter

1539
01:00:28,710 --> 01:00:27,119
and what what made the encounter

1540
01:00:30,150 --> 01:00:28,720
important to us was that there were two

1541
01:00:32,870 --> 01:00:30,160
independent sources

1542
01:00:34,549 --> 01:00:32,880
that viewed the same encounter and if

1543
01:00:37,190 --> 01:00:34,559
you do research you discover in these

1544
01:00:40,150 --> 01:00:37,200
type of reduction cases

1545
01:00:41,109 --> 01:00:40,160
you tend to find that the groups are

1546
01:00:43,109 --> 01:00:41,119
coming

1547
01:00:44,309 --> 01:00:43,119
you know some way related in some sense

1548
01:00:45,589 --> 01:00:44,319
in other words the account occurs on the

1549
01:00:46,470 --> 01:00:45,599
road everybody hops out and has a look

1550
01:00:48,630 --> 01:00:46,480
at it

1551
01:00:50,230 --> 01:00:48,640
in this case the the two cars are

1552
01:00:53,430 --> 01:00:50,240
separated by distance and

1553
01:00:54,230 --> 01:00:53,440
uh the the two groups don't know each

1554
01:00:55,910 --> 01:00:54,240
other and they

1555
01:00:57,430 --> 01:00:55,920
uh in the end disappear from the

1556
01:00:59,510 --> 01:00:57,440
location and

1557
01:01:01,190 --> 01:00:59,520
consequently come back to have research

1558
01:01:04,230 --> 01:01:01,200
done them on them in a separate

1559
01:01:06,309 --> 01:01:04,240
at a different time down the road so

1560
01:01:08,230 --> 01:01:06,319
well there was uh what we did uh we were

1561
01:01:10,470 --> 01:01:08,240
first looking for the location uh

1562
01:01:13,109 --> 01:01:10,480
to get the general location of the

1563
01:01:15,990 --> 01:01:13,119
encounter which we discovered reasonably

1564
01:01:16,470 --> 01:01:16,000
easily but the main data that we got was

1565
01:01:18,230 --> 01:01:16,480
uh

1566
01:01:20,230 --> 01:01:18,240
from the field analysis with some

1567
01:01:23,030 --> 01:01:20,240
chemical changes to the soil

1568
01:01:24,630 --> 01:01:23,040
uh three markings on the ground uh there

1569
01:01:28,390 --> 01:01:24,640
are approximately

1570
01:01:30,870 --> 01:01:28,400
75 centimeters in sir in diameter

1571
01:01:33,270 --> 01:01:30,880
also they we used a special magnetometer

1572
01:01:35,829 --> 01:01:33,280
to um

1573
01:01:37,670 --> 01:01:35,839
on the field itself and we discovered a

1574
01:01:38,630 --> 01:01:37,680
an unusual anomaly on the field that

1575
01:01:41,670 --> 01:01:38,640
looked like a half

1576
01:01:44,150 --> 01:01:41,680
moon or facing towards the north

1577
01:01:46,309 --> 01:01:44,160
uh there was other things that came from

1578
01:01:48,309 --> 01:01:46,319
the encounter was that

1579
01:01:50,230 --> 01:01:48,319
each of the girls especially because the

1580
01:01:53,190 --> 01:01:50,240
men seem to be isolated from both of the

1581
01:01:55,270 --> 01:01:53,200
cars but the girls indicated to us that

1582
01:01:57,750 --> 01:01:55,280
they'd been interfered in some way

1583
01:01:58,630 --> 01:01:57,760
and that one of the girls called glenda

1584
01:02:01,829 --> 01:01:58,640
who's a

1585
01:02:03,510 --> 01:02:01,839
trained nurse a registered nurse she had

1586
01:02:07,029 --> 01:02:03,520
markings on her which

1587
01:02:07,589 --> 01:02:07,039
she went to a gp and the gp photographed

1588
01:02:09,029 --> 01:02:07,599
them and

1589
01:02:11,349 --> 01:02:09,039
constantly had some very good evidence

1590
01:02:14,710 --> 01:02:11,359
of a triangle under her navel

1591
01:02:17,190 --> 01:02:14,720
and a mark on the left inner thigh and

1592
01:02:18,710 --> 01:02:17,200
a mark on the base of her down towards

1593
01:02:19,829 --> 01:02:18,720
her ankle

1594
01:02:23,510 --> 01:02:19,839
so there was a lot of good evidence

1595
01:02:25,109 --> 01:02:23,520
available in the evening of september 15

1596
01:02:26,870 --> 01:02:25,119
i walked to the post office when some

1597
01:02:29,109 --> 01:02:26,880
400 meters from my home

1598
01:02:30,710 --> 01:02:29,119
i saw a huge round craft hovering only a

1599
01:02:33,109 --> 01:02:30,720
few feet above me

1600
01:02:36,069 --> 01:02:33,119
it has five lights each containing three

1601
01:02:38,150 --> 01:02:36,079
smaller ones red and brown and white

1602
01:02:39,190 --> 01:02:38,160
when i stood there and looked at the

1603
01:02:41,990 --> 01:02:39,200
craft

1604
01:02:44,069 --> 01:02:42,000
i suddenly was lifted into it i found

1605
01:02:46,390 --> 01:02:44,079
myself surrounded by small creatures

1606
01:02:47,270 --> 01:02:46,400
with stubby arms and tentacles coming

1607
01:02:49,829 --> 01:02:47,280
out of them

1608
01:02:51,190 --> 01:02:49,839
one of them was a woman wearing a shiny

1609
01:02:54,230 --> 01:02:51,200
green garment

1610
01:02:56,069 --> 01:02:54,240
and a moon shaped kind of helmet or hat

1611
01:02:58,069 --> 01:02:56,079
then a larger creature appeared and the

1612
01:03:00,710 --> 01:02:58,079
small ones gathered around it

1613
01:03:02,069 --> 01:03:00,720
it issued an order in a world what

1614
01:03:04,710 --> 01:03:02,079
sounded like a needle

1615
01:03:07,589 --> 01:03:04,720
scratching across a record and one of

1616
01:03:09,589 --> 01:03:07,599
the smaller beans came closer to me

1617
01:03:11,910 --> 01:03:09,599
and suddenly threw some kind of yellow

1618
01:03:14,470 --> 01:03:11,920
powder at my upper body and face

1619
01:03:15,190 --> 01:03:14,480
that's all what i remember i found

1620
01:03:17,349 --> 01:03:15,200
myself

1621
01:03:18,950 --> 01:03:17,359
on the spot ground of a school just a

1622
01:03:19,589 --> 01:03:18,960
few hundred meters from where i was

1623
01:03:21,829 --> 01:03:19,599
taken

1624
01:03:23,670 --> 01:03:21,839
i was totally confused but i decided to

1625
01:03:26,230 --> 01:03:23,680
go to the police station

1626
01:03:27,670 --> 01:03:26,240
and report what happened to me i arrived

1627
01:03:28,230 --> 01:03:27,680
at the police station a few minutes

1628
01:03:30,309 --> 01:03:28,240
later

1629
01:03:32,230 --> 01:03:30,319
but when i looked at the clock it was

1630
01:03:33,990 --> 01:03:32,240
almost 11 p.m

1631
01:03:35,510 --> 01:03:34,000
when i went to the post office it was

1632
01:03:42,829 --> 01:03:35,520
just before we closed

1633
01:03:42,839 --> 01:03:56,870
but

1634
01:03:56,880 --> 01:04:10,870
hey

1635
01:04:15,109 --> 01:04:12,630
especially interesting he went to the

1636
01:04:17,829 --> 01:04:15,119
police the police removed

1637
01:04:19,190 --> 01:04:17,839
the yellow powder from his arm from his

1638
01:04:21,270 --> 01:04:19,200
elbow all the way to his wrist

1639
01:04:22,230 --> 01:04:21,280
it was analyzed at a fuller hospital it

1640
01:04:24,870 --> 01:04:22,240
was found to

1641
01:04:25,270 --> 01:04:24,880
be composed of a compound just unknown

1642
01:04:28,230 --> 01:04:25,280
to the

1643
01:04:29,510 --> 01:04:28,240
analysts there it was 55 aluminum and

1644
01:04:31,190 --> 01:04:29,520
after that was

1645
01:04:33,430 --> 01:04:31,200
we never got the results after that it

1646
01:04:35,829 --> 01:04:33,440
was very strange the papers reported

1647
01:04:37,430 --> 01:04:35,839
that the soil itself could not have been

1648
01:04:38,549 --> 01:04:37,440
from israel there is no soil like this

1649
01:04:40,470 --> 01:04:38,559
in israel

1650
01:04:41,829 --> 01:04:40,480
and they said the composition was

1651
01:04:44,870 --> 01:04:41,839
extremely strange

1652
01:04:48,230 --> 01:04:44,880
and then since then nothing

1653
01:04:50,630 --> 01:04:48,240
but again we have physical evidence uh

1654
01:04:52,710 --> 01:04:50,640
yuri isakoff a 63 year old retired

1655
01:04:56,150 --> 01:04:52,720
seaman did not fly somewhere

1656
01:04:57,990 --> 01:04:56,160
in his secret lab cook up

1657
01:05:01,750 --> 01:04:58,000
this strange powder in order to go to

1658
01:05:05,910 --> 01:05:04,390
the next day i felt very bad i had burn

1659
01:05:07,829 --> 01:05:05,920
marks on my arm and face

1660
01:05:09,029 --> 01:05:07,839
which itched horribly and burned so much

1661
01:05:11,109 --> 01:05:09,039
when water touched them

1662
01:05:13,510 --> 01:05:11,119
but i was not able to take any buff or

1663
01:05:15,829 --> 01:05:13,520
shower anymore until this very day

1664
01:05:16,549 --> 01:05:15,839
in december one gonad became badly

1665
01:05:19,190 --> 01:05:16,559
inflamed

1666
01:05:34,069 --> 01:05:19,200
most of the time i'm in pain so badly

1667
01:05:41,029 --> 01:05:38,069
is very interesting because till today

1668
01:05:42,150 --> 01:05:41,039
from the day that he was captured by

1669
01:05:45,829 --> 01:05:42,160
aliens

1670
01:05:49,029 --> 01:05:45,839
as he told us his wounds

1671
01:05:52,870 --> 01:05:49,039
didn't heal now and he is bleeding

1672
01:05:54,950 --> 01:05:52,880
and nobody really takes care of him

1673
01:05:55,910 --> 01:05:54,960
and he told me last time when i was in

1674
01:05:58,230 --> 01:05:55,920
his home

1675
01:05:59,029 --> 01:05:58,240
maybe the government just waits that

1676
01:06:01,589 --> 01:05:59,039
i'll die

1677
01:06:02,630 --> 01:06:01,599
so they can examine my body and it was

1678
01:06:04,270 --> 01:06:02,640
very sad

1679
01:06:23,109 --> 01:06:04,280
to hear it

1680
01:06:27,990 --> 01:06:25,589
indeed international experts agreed that

1681
01:06:28,870 --> 01:06:28,000
the abduction phenomenon is global by

1682
01:06:31,190 --> 01:06:28,880
nature

1683
01:06:33,990 --> 01:06:31,200
not only in europe australia and israel

1684
01:06:35,990 --> 01:06:34,000
but also in africa and south america

1685
01:06:38,470 --> 01:06:36,000
only the reaction of different peoples

1686
01:06:39,430 --> 01:06:38,480
is different from panic and hysteria to

1687
01:06:42,150 --> 01:06:39,440
curiosity

1688
01:06:43,109 --> 01:06:42,160
and an inner transformation the question

1689
01:06:45,589 --> 01:06:43,119
remains

1690
01:06:49,670 --> 01:06:45,599
what does it all mean let's hear to

1691
01:06:51,589 --> 01:06:49,680
which conclusions the researchers came

1692
01:06:53,430 --> 01:06:51,599
it's difficult to come to any personal

1693
01:06:55,910 --> 01:06:53,440
conclusion about abduction

1694
01:06:58,309 --> 01:06:55,920
but one factor that does interest me is

1695
01:06:59,589 --> 01:06:58,319
the inappropriate nature of the response

1696
01:07:02,789 --> 01:06:59,599
to this phenomenon

1697
01:07:05,029 --> 01:07:02,799
i would suspect and i would fully expect

1698
01:07:05,990 --> 01:07:05,039
abductees to react with fear and anger

1699
01:07:07,829 --> 01:07:06,000
to what's happened

1700
01:07:10,069 --> 01:07:07,839
uh particularly when painful and

1701
01:07:11,829 --> 01:07:10,079
intrusive procedures are being reported

1702
01:07:14,630 --> 01:07:11,839
but a lot of them don't they react in a

1703
01:07:16,630 --> 01:07:14,640
much more positive way

1704
01:07:17,829 --> 01:07:16,640
they go on to develop spontaneous

1705
01:07:21,430 --> 01:07:17,839
interests in

1706
01:07:25,029 --> 01:07:21,440
new age issues they develop skills

1707
01:07:28,549 --> 01:07:25,039
as artists poets painters whatever

1708
01:07:29,109 --> 01:07:28,559
they become adept in uh spiritual

1709
01:07:31,349 --> 01:07:29,119
healing

1710
01:07:32,950 --> 01:07:31,359
for example this strikes me as an

1711
01:07:35,349 --> 01:07:32,960
artificial response

1712
01:07:37,829 --> 01:07:35,359
perhaps something that's been induced in

1713
01:07:40,789 --> 01:07:37,839
them i can't help but wonder whether the

1714
01:07:42,950 --> 01:07:40,799
transformative nature of this experience

1715
01:07:45,510 --> 01:07:42,960
shows that it's something been done to

1716
01:07:47,670 --> 01:07:45,520
us by someone or something else

1717
01:07:51,349 --> 01:07:47,680
perhaps to try and lessen the threat we

1718
01:07:52,870 --> 01:07:51,359
pose as we begin to go out in space

1719
01:07:54,870 --> 01:07:52,880
there could be any number of different

1720
01:07:56,950 --> 01:07:54,880
reasons for them

1721
01:07:59,349 --> 01:07:56,960
for example there's a tremendous amount

1722
01:08:01,270 --> 01:07:59,359
of sexual content and abductions

1723
01:08:03,750 --> 01:08:01,280
and if it was it you know if there were

1724
01:08:07,510 --> 01:08:03,760
aliens here who were

1725
01:08:11,750 --> 01:08:07,520
who were uh examining us

1726
01:08:13,510 --> 01:08:11,760
and and and and trying to understand us

1727
01:08:15,990 --> 01:08:13,520
one of the first things they would do

1728
01:08:17,990 --> 01:08:16,000
would be to look to our sexual content

1729
01:08:20,229 --> 01:08:18,000
to our genetic content and so forth in

1730
01:08:22,070 --> 01:08:20,239
an effort to understand us

1731
01:08:24,309 --> 01:08:22,080
uh if we went to another planet we would

1732
01:08:26,309 --> 01:08:24,319
do precisely the same thing

1733
01:08:27,590 --> 01:08:26,319
and uh if we went to another planet

1734
01:08:29,030 --> 01:08:27,600
where the people were very much more

1735
01:08:31,430 --> 01:08:29,040
primitive than we are

1736
01:08:33,189 --> 01:08:31,440
if we had any ethics at all we would be

1737
01:08:34,870 --> 01:08:33,199
extremely secretive

1738
01:08:36,390 --> 01:08:34,880
so that we wouldn't shock them and

1739
01:08:38,870 --> 01:08:36,400
destroy their growing

1740
01:08:40,950 --> 01:08:38,880
culture and cause it to plunge into the

1741
01:08:44,950 --> 01:08:40,960
same kind of non-meaning that happens in

1742
01:08:46,470 --> 01:08:44,960
this world when uh when uh

1743
01:08:48,229 --> 01:08:46,480
native cultures are exposed to

1744
01:08:49,349 --> 01:08:48,239
technology everything that they believed

1745
01:08:51,430 --> 01:08:49,359
in is ruined

1746
01:08:52,789 --> 01:08:51,440
and they usually the culture itself just

1747
01:08:55,269 --> 01:08:52,799
dies

1748
01:08:56,390 --> 01:08:55,279
whoever's out there is making a great

1749
01:08:58,390 --> 01:08:56,400
effort

1750
01:09:01,590 --> 01:08:58,400
to bring us into contact without

1751
01:09:05,749 --> 01:09:03,510
the majority of abductees tell us that

1752
01:09:06,550 --> 01:09:05,759
the et's want to direct our attention on

1753
01:09:08,390 --> 01:09:06,560
our ecology

1754
01:09:10,070 --> 01:09:08,400
and its destruction and that we cannot

1755
01:09:11,430 --> 01:09:10,080
continue that way

1756
01:09:13,110 --> 01:09:11,440
furthermore they want to learn more

1757
01:09:14,789 --> 01:09:13,120
about our anatomy

1758
01:09:16,229 --> 01:09:14,799
third they want to teach us something

1759
01:09:18,390 --> 01:09:16,239
from what they have learned

1760
01:09:22,390 --> 01:09:18,400
and fourth they want to heal us which

1761
01:09:26,950 --> 01:09:25,110
it is for our own good because we are

1762
01:09:27,669 --> 01:09:26,960
destroying this planet i mean it's quite

1763
01:09:30,789 --> 01:09:27,679
evident that

1764
01:09:32,390 --> 01:09:30,799
if we don't change in our thinking

1765
01:09:33,990 --> 01:09:32,400
in our ways of handling with other

1766
01:09:35,990 --> 01:09:34,000
people we look down upon other

1767
01:09:37,590 --> 01:09:36,000
people we do down upon people who are

1768
01:09:39,349 --> 01:09:37,600
different or people who

1769
01:09:40,870 --> 01:09:39,359
have another skin color or people who

1770
01:09:43,110 --> 01:09:40,880
have no other religion

1771
01:09:45,430 --> 01:09:43,120
if we don't change and we don't realize

1772
01:09:46,870 --> 01:09:45,440
that the planet earth is alive

1773
01:09:48,950 --> 01:09:46,880
we are going to destroy this with

1774
01:09:52,229 --> 01:09:48,960
pollution with radioactivity with

1775
01:09:52,550 --> 01:09:52,239
atomic installations so they are trying

1776
01:10:00,070 --> 01:09:52,560
to

1777
01:10:02,870 --> 01:10:00,080
have it somewhere

1778
01:10:05,669 --> 01:10:02,880
if we blow up this planet and they are

1779
01:10:09,189 --> 01:10:05,679
also trying to make another race because

1780
01:10:12,550 --> 01:10:09,199
it seems that our race which kills which

1781
01:10:15,430 --> 01:10:12,560
even today in yugoslavia area in europe

1782
01:10:17,510 --> 01:10:15,440
is having a war killing its own people

1783
01:10:18,310 --> 01:10:17,520
is so primitive that it has to be

1784
01:10:19,990 --> 01:10:18,320
changed

1785
01:10:22,390 --> 01:10:20,000
and this isn't the first time we have

1786
01:10:24,470 --> 01:10:22,400
been subject to genetic manipulation

1787
01:10:25,990 --> 01:10:24,480
for thousands of years sometimes say

1788
01:10:27,990 --> 01:10:26,000
it's it's like a spiritual

1789
01:10:29,910 --> 01:10:28,000
outreach program from the cosmos to the

1790
01:10:30,950 --> 01:10:29,920
consciously impaired in other words i i

1791
01:10:34,149 --> 01:10:30,960
see it as a

1792
01:10:36,790 --> 01:10:34,159
as a uh

1793
01:10:38,630 --> 01:10:36,800
really an opportunity an outreach uh

1794
01:10:41,910 --> 01:10:38,640
phenomenon that can

1795
01:10:43,669 --> 01:10:41,920
enable through the hundreds of thousands

1796
01:10:45,510 --> 01:10:43,679
now millions of people that appear to be

1797
01:10:48,709 --> 01:10:45,520
being reached by this to

1798
01:10:49,830 --> 01:10:48,719
open consciousness to uh open its up

1799
01:10:52,149 --> 01:10:49,840
once again to the

1800
01:10:53,270 --> 01:10:52,159
to a universe that is filled with life

1801
01:10:55,990 --> 01:10:53,280
that is alive that

1802
01:10:56,870 --> 01:10:56,000
that is intelligent it's not simply a

1803
01:11:00,870 --> 01:10:56,880
lifeless

1804
01:11:01,590 --> 01:11:00,880
uh energy matter vast tremendous but

1805
01:11:06,310 --> 01:11:01,600
which is

1806
01:11:08,790 --> 01:11:06,320
is divine and sacred and has

1807
01:11:11,430 --> 01:11:08,800
all kinds of possibilities but it is it

1808
01:11:13,750 --> 01:11:11,440
does open us to the unknown and i think

1809
01:11:15,510 --> 01:11:13,760
we've always been living in mystery in

1810
01:11:17,590 --> 01:11:15,520
the unknown but this confronts us so

1811
01:11:28,650 --> 01:11:17,600
vividly that i think we have to face a

1812
01:11:38,830 --> 01:11:29,510
[Applause]

1813
01:12:00,050 --> 01:11:38,840
[Music]

1814
01:12:20,830 --> 01:12:00,060
[Applause]

1815
01:12:20,840 --> 01:12:34,830
my

1816
01:12:37,350 --> 01:12:36,240
so

1817
01:13:23,830 --> 01:12:37,360
[Applause]